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I know you're not supposed to feed the trolls, but I can't stop myself ... as the father of a mentally handicapped son, I'm offended by your use of the 'tard su

by smoyer 13y ago

I know you're not supposed to feed the trolls, but I can't stop myself ... as the father of a mentally handicapped son, I'm offended by your use of the 'tard suffix. As the father of two daughters, I'm also offended by your characterization of feminism (and feminists) as radical activists. These do exist (even some that lie as your example implies) but don't impune those that believe in gender equality with such a horrendous label. If you can't resist, at least be man enough to post using a real account.

coherentpony 13y ago
This is admirable. I wish you and your family the best. Take a break, simmer down, and ignore the cunt that wound you up. They are just someone behind an internet connection, and they will have no effect on your life or the success of your children's lives. Unless, of course, you let them. It takes a stronger person to rise above the rest and lead by example. I'm not sure why I felt the need to tell you that, because I'm sure you knew already. You probably give your children the same advice. Anyway, I hope you're alright.
- coherentpony 13y ago
  Why on Earth am I being downvoted?
  - jrockway 13y ago
    I'm guessing that in a thread about being supportive to your female coworkers, your use of the word "cunt" was not appreciated.
    - bradleyjg 13y ago
      It's worth nothing that the connotation of that word is very different in the UK than it is in the US. So for UK people you should realize that it is completely beyond the pale in polite US conversation and for US people you should not assume someone from the UK using it meant it the same way someone from the US would. I don't know about the other Anglophone countries, and of course I have no idea where coherentpony is from.
      - tlarkworthy 13y ago
        I am from the UK and the C word is not allowed in a professional setting. Scottish people sometimes use it as a term of endearment, but still, never when at work. Women in the UK rightly hate it as a figure of speech. I hope coherentpony gets the message clear, it's not an appropriate thing to say here.
        coherentpony 13y ago
        I am from the UK too and, indeed, "the c word" isn't used in a professional setting. Luckily, HN isn't a professional setting. The word is reserved for friends and vermin. You can probably guess which of these I classify our troll as. Well, I didn't mean to cause offence to anyone it wasn't directed to, irrespective of gender.
        jrockway 13y ago
        Some things to think about: 1) Idiomatic speech is difficult to deviate from. So to be careful, you have to be constantly on guard for how you might be perceived. ("He" as the generic pronoun is also in this category.) 2) HN has a wide audience, including people from the US, UK, and many countries that don't speak English primarily. So understanding how others might perceive you is more important here than among a group of close friends.
  - smoyer 13y ago
    I didn't down-vote you but I would agree that here in the US, the "C-word" is more offensive than the "F-word". And as for my well-being, I certainly wouldn't call that a rant (I can rant much more effectively than that). I simply believe it's a good idea to let people know how you feel and then move on ... No increase in heart-rate was required to write that paragraph. My wife and family are indeed happy and blessed. And my son is sitting here in the dining room with me as I type (playing angry birds on his tablet).
- lexcorvus 13y ago
  My guess is the downvotes are largely based on your use of the word "cunt". (HN won't let me reply to your question about the downvotes, so I'm replying here.)
crassus 13y ago
When I think of feminists, I think of such leading lights of the movement as Adria Richards and Shanely: https://twitter.com/shanley/status/460472595968569345 https://twitter.com/shanley/status/460472595968569345 Feminists are radical activists, feminism is not about equality, and although everybody deserves respect and consideration as an individual, men and women are not equal and no amount of belief will change that scientific fact.
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- teacup50 13y ago
  I can't tell if "leading lights" is meant earnestly here, but I personally choose to believe she's anything but: "Lol men are all like WHY DO WOMEN NEED SPECIAL PLACES TO HACK. well, maybe it's because men are RAPISTS." https://twitter.com/shanley/status/451779905475186690 https://twitter.com/shanley/status/451779905475186690
  - joshlegs 13y ago
    I dont understand why you're being downvoted for quoting from the chick's twitter where she accuses all men of one of the most heinous crimes one can commit. She doesnt sound like a champion of gender equality to me, based on this absurd tweet. maybe it's satire. i'll try to give her the benefit of the doubt.
  - benjamincburns 13y ago
    I hear "separate but equal" was all the rage back in the 50's and 60's... I wonder how that turned out.
- antihero 13y ago
  Oh look, you are another one of those ignorant people who treats feminism as a whole because it suits them. I know a fair few people who fight for "equality" and condemned of Adria Richards being a colossal jerk.

by smoyer 13y ago

coherentpony 13y ago

This is admirable. I wish you and your family the best. Take a break, simmer down, and ignore the cunt that wound you up. They are just someone behind an internet connection, and they will have no effect on your life or the success of your children's lives. Unless, of course, you let them. It takes a stronger person to rise above the rest and lead by example. I'm not sure why I felt the need to tell you that, because I'm sure you knew already. You probably give your children the same advice. Anyway, I hope you're alright.

coherentpony 13y ago
Why on Earth am I being downvoted?
- jrockway 13y ago
  I'm guessing that in a thread about being supportive to your female coworkers, your use of the word "cunt" was not appreciated.
  - bradleyjg 13y ago
    It's worth nothing that the connotation of that word is very different in the UK than it is in the US. So for UK people you should realize that it is completely beyond the pale in polite US conversation and for US people you should not assume someone from the UK using it meant it the same way someone from the US would. I don't know about the other Anglophone countries, and of course I have no idea where coherentpony is from.
    - tlarkworthy 13y ago
      I am from the UK and the C word is not allowed in a professional setting. Scottish people sometimes use it as a term of endearment, but still, never when at work. Women in the UK rightly hate it as a figure of speech. I hope coherentpony gets the message clear, it's not an appropriate thing to say here.
      - coherentpony 13y ago
        I am from the UK too and, indeed, "the c word" isn't used in a professional setting. Luckily, HN isn't a professional setting. The word is reserved for friends and vermin. You can probably guess which of these I classify our troll as. Well, I didn't mean to cause offence to anyone it wasn't directed to, irrespective of gender.
        jrockway 13y ago
        Some things to think about: 1) Idiomatic speech is difficult to deviate from. So to be careful, you have to be constantly on guard for how you might be perceived. ("He" as the generic pronoun is also in this category.) 2) HN has a wide audience, including people from the US, UK, and many countries that don't speak English primarily. So understanding how others might perceive you is more important here than among a group of close friends.
- smoyer 13y ago
  I didn't down-vote you but I would agree that here in the US, the "C-word" is more offensive than the "F-word". And as for my well-being, I certainly wouldn't call that a rant (I can rant much more effectively than that). I simply believe it's a good idea to let people know how you feel and then move on ... No increase in heart-rate was required to write that paragraph. My wife and family are indeed happy and blessed. And my son is sitting here in the dining room with me as I type (playing angry birds on his tablet).
lexcorvus 13y ago
My guess is the downvotes are largely based on your use of the word "cunt". (HN won't let me reply to your question about the downvotes, so I'm replying here.)

crassus 13y ago

When I think of feminists, I think of such leading lights of the movement as Adria Richards and Shanely: https://twitter.com/shanley/status/460472595968569345 https://twitter.com/shanley/status/460472595968569345 Feminists are radical activists, feminism is not about equality, and although everybody deserves respect and consideration as an individual, men and women are not equal and no amount of belief will change that scientific fact.

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teacup50 13y ago
I can't tell if "leading lights" is meant earnestly here, but I personally choose to believe she's anything but: "Lol men are all like WHY DO WOMEN NEED SPECIAL PLACES TO HACK. well, maybe it's because men are RAPISTS." https://twitter.com/shanley/status/451779905475186690 https://twitter.com/shanley/status/451779905475186690
- joshlegs 13y ago
  I dont understand why you're being downvoted for quoting from the chick's twitter where she accuses all men of one of the most heinous crimes one can commit. She doesnt sound like a champion of gender equality to me, based on this absurd tweet. maybe it's satire. i'll try to give her the benefit of the doubt.
- benjamincburns 13y ago
  I hear "separate but equal" was all the rage back in the 50's and 60's... I wonder how that turned out.
antihero 13y ago
Oh look, you are another one of those ignorant people who treats feminism as a whole because it suits them. I know a fair few people who fight for "equality" and condemned of Adria Richards being a colossal jerk.