I've still haven't found a satisfactory way of doing TDD with UIs. Being able to do MVVM with WPF got pretty close but it felt a lot more like driving the appli

I've still haven't found a satisfactory way of doing TDD with UIs. Being able to do MVVM with WPF got pretty close but it felt a lot more like driving the application with selenium or something akin to it. iOS seems worse, but I've only dabbled in it.