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Any company that does business in the US is obviously subject to the US legal system. That they don't have an office in the US can be used to your advantage (to

by waps 12y ago

Any company that does business in the US is obviously subject to the US legal system. That they don't have an office in the US can be used to your advantage (to obtain judgements in absentia is a lot easier than facing a lawyer for obvious reasons). US courts will assert jurisdiction about any business transaction that took place in the US, whether or not the participants have an official address or not. Keep in mind that the organization needs accounts with organizations that can transfer into and out of US bank accounts. So freelancer.com must have a US bank account, which will be subject to US court orders. There is no such thing as "judgement-proof". Thankfully.

hga 12y ago
"Keep in mind that the organization needs accounts with organizations that can transfer into and out of US bank accounts. So freelancer.com must have a US bank account, which will be subject to US court orders." But to collect from one of those US bank accounts, you first have to find it. You'd either need to get info from another US freelancer ... and supplying that might get in the way of his continuing to get paid (I guess using social media you'd try to find someone who's not going to use them again), or you'd have to gotten your first payment. A default judgement obtained in absentia also means the judge has no leverage to pry this sort of information out of the company's representatives.
- waps 12y ago
  > But to collect from one of those US bank accounts, you first have to find it True. Buy a $0.05 gimmick from them and check your bank statement.
  - hga 12y ago
    Clever. They're not a products company and they don't seem to have any bling you can buy, but I noticed a small writing job they're highlighting on their web page for $50. You could have a friend or two do a minimal transaction through them, although you'd want to use ACH (warning!!! on an account with little money in it!) instead of a credit card so you don't have to try to squeeze the bank info out of a card company, but, yeah. Still might be expensive to collect from an out of state bank, don't really know how that works.

by waps 12y ago

hga 12y ago

"Keep in mind that the organization needs accounts with organizations that can transfer into and out of US bank accounts. So freelancer.com must have a US bank account, which will be subject to US court orders." But to collect from one of those US bank accounts, you first have to find it. You'd either need to get info from another US freelancer ... and supplying that might get in the way of his continuing to get paid (I guess using social media you'd try to find someone who's not going to use them again), or you'd have to gotten your first payment. A default judgement obtained in absentia also means the judge has no leverage to pry this sort of information out of the company's representatives.

waps 12y ago
> But to collect from one of those US bank accounts, you first have to find it True. Buy a $0.05 gimmick from them and check your bank statement.
- hga 12y ago
  Clever. They're not a products company and they don't seem to have any bling you can buy, but I noticed a small writing job they're highlighting on their web page for $50. You could have a friend or two do a minimal transaction through them, although you'd want to use ACH (warning!!! on an account with little money in it!) instead of a credit card so you don't have to try to squeeze the bank info out of a card company, but, yeah. Still might be expensive to collect from an out of state bank, don't really know how that works.