I think the problem with threads/discussions like this is that you first need a clear definition of what 'productive' is. My definition of what I consider produ

I think the problem with threads/discussions like this is that you first need a clear definition of what 'productive' is. My definition of what I consider productive work is probably different from what other people consider productive work. Until we are sure all parties are talking about the same thing, it's hard to have a useful conversation about productivity.