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A lot of people here suggested you speak with a lawyer and they made it sound like you should do it on your own. 1st, make absolutely certain that who ever you
by wtvanhest 13y ago
A lot of people here suggested you speak with a lawyer and they made it sound like you should do it on your own.
1st, make absolutely certain that who ever you choose as your lawyer is a startup lawyer. Do not contact a family friend who does litigation or someone else that does real estate law. You must hire a startup lawyer who does work for venture firms, angel investors etc.
2nd, From the read, you are worried, but you still think your co-founder is a good guy. If that is the case, you should just send him a link to this post and say: "I asked this question on HN, and it is clear that we may not need to incorporate yet, but I am concerned about protecting the work I have done and will do in the future. Let's start talking to lawyers about everything to get the ball rolling."
By staying positive and just showing him that this is the right thing to do, you are making forward progress. If he balks at hiring a lawyer, you may want to consult one on your own.
- newbiecofounder 13y agoFirst, thanks to everyone for their advice. I'm reading carefully. Replying to your comment: yes, I think he is a good guy. But in all honesty, I would like to finish the product and stop working on it while holding to some (even small) equity in case the company succeeds. We've already outlined a plan to bring paid developers onboard. Once it materializes, I would like to do less and less until completely detached. It all started as a good idea and I had a lot of fun building it. Looking back, I see the quality of our current product and the time I've spent on it, and I think I should own part of it even if I don't continue to be involved in its potential success.
- jt2190 13y agoDoes your cofounder know that you don't want to be a part of the company in the future?
- newbiecofounder 13y agoI don't know it myself either. It's an idea I'm contemplating, but the most probable scenario at this point.
- jt2190 13y agoYou need to decide this. Your cofounder will raise money based on the future needs of the company. If you're not a part of the company going forward, your cofounder will need to make it clear to investors how he plans to move the company forward without you. If your role is critical to the company's continued existence, he may need to find a new technical cofounder, which can take quite some time. If not, he may need to raise more money so that he can hire employees or pay for contractors. If you do decide to leave it's going to be very much like breaking up... If you've been communicating well with your cofounder he probably won't be surprised, and is more likely to be mature and understanding, and start discussing all of the things that will need to be done so that you can leave without hurting the company. If you've not been communicating well, your cofounder may be completely surprised and upset, and may disagree that you leaving is the best thing for both of you. He may want nothing to do with you moving forward. It's important that you're prepared for this, and that you are able to show him exactly how you can leave the company without harming it. In other words, you'll need to make a very clear exit plan, so that it's clear that you're leaving the company, not trying to destroy it. If you're lucky he'll let you help execute the transition plan.
- PeterWhittaker 13y agoIANAL, etc. But I'll give you a plan anyway. And you should have a lawyer help you with it. The plan may be overkill, you may be able to skip directly to the "real action", below, but following the plan makes sure you have your ducks in a row before taking "the action". Create a corporation this week, yourself, ideally with one shareholder, you. If you need multiple directors, have the other director be someone you trust (best friend, brother, mother, etc.), anyone other than "the co-founder" (whom I will refer to as "the other guy" for the rest of this post.) (You may be able to immediately pass a directors' resolution or shareholders' resolution reducing the number of directors, depending on your jurisdiction.) Assign all copyright in your work to the corporation (possibly in exchange for a nominal fee, e.g., $1). At this point, the company you own controls the software. If necessary, and upon advice of the lawyer you hired, file in the corporate minute book copies of all emails or other communications between you and "the other guy" that show, explicitly or implicitly, that you wrote the code and were simply making it available to him (for purposes specified or unspecified). At this point you have documents that may be considered evidence of your effort and ownership and of his non-involvement in the production of the code. (Be sure to include in the above batch of documents anything that does reflect his contributions, e.g., in terms of reviews, recommendations, suggestions.) The real action step: Once the above is done, send him a brief email indicating that you aren't sure whether or not you want to continue with the project (call it that, not business or product or company or anything else) and that you are willing to sell him the intellectual property you have developed so that he can continue with the project. You do not have to say why you are no longer interested. If pressed, cite "work life balance" or something. What happens next depends on his tone. If it is anything other than friendly and understanding, indicate that you are disappointed, hope to be able to resolve things amicably one way or another, etc., but don't make any commitments or say anything other than pleasantries. If his tone is still other than friendly, play hardball. Have the lawyer or a good friend do it if you are uncomfortable. Tell him that you are going to sell your interest to the highest bidder and are offering him first dibs. If his tone is friendly, tell him you want to work out together what happens next, that you incorporated, for your own protection, and either that the two of you will agree to his share of the company (which is entirely in your control) and agree to work together or that you will sell him the company and all interest in the IP for a reasonable and mutually acceptable price. If you agree to work together, you may want to write down roles and responsibilities for each of you and documented expectations for the next several weeks/months. If it looks like things are going to go south, and that a sale is a pipe dream, and that you are not interested in pursuing the project, then, as long as you know for sure and for certain that you own everything, open source it with a license that prevents others from "taking it proprietary" and building the business in your absence without rewarding you.