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He's not making an argument about nuanced tradeoffs, though. He's saying that he gets no benefit ("It makes me feel bleh", "Alcohol does not increase my enjoyme

by kylec 12y ago

He's not making an argument about nuanced tradeoffs, though. He's saying that he gets no benefit ("It makes me feel bleh", "Alcohol does not increase my enjoyment of activities") and that there are some drawbacks for him ("It dumbs you down", "It's expensive"). You might have different personal experiences with alcohol, but you can't deny the author his.

mjn 12y ago
> You might have different personal experiences with alcohol, but you can't deny the author his. I can deny the author his unfounded generalizations, though. He's explaining why he doesn't like getting trashed, going out to a club and having a dozen drinks. All his bullet points are about that situation. Sure, I agree that is bad. It results in hangovers, feeling shitty, large expenditures of cash, and other such bad events. So: don't do that. But that's not a problem with alcohol, that's a problem with party/club culture. But don't write an article about something different. If you're writing about why you've changed your ways from going out to clubs and getting hammered, entitle it "why I no longer go out to clubs and get hammered". Don't try to over-generalize your experience.
- kylec 12y ago
  Not all the author's reasons have to with going out or party/club culture. Look no further than the first two points: - It makes me feel bleh. - Alcohol does not increase my enjoyment of activities. Those points have nothing to do with binge drinking or party/club culture, and are sufficient justification for the author's preferences (Though I maintain that no justification is necessary at all). Everything else is just additional examples of drawbacks, and there's nothing wrong with them being specific to a specific kind of drinking.
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thret 12y ago
I find it hard to believe a glass of wine matched with dinner does not increase enjoyment of the activity. I realise taste is acquired but for someone who already drinks wine surely this is ignorance. I've seen someone order a $100 steak well-done. They may enjoy this meal, but they have no goddamn idea what they are missing.
- kylec 12y ago
  In your case? Absolutely. In the average case? Probably. In his case? You have no way to know. In my case, I don't like the taste of alcohol, to me it's very pungent. Also, I tend to run on the warmer side, and alcohol tends to heat me up even more. Therefore, for me, a glass of wine with dinner - "matched" or no - decreases my enjoyment of the activity.

by kylec 12y ago

mjn 12y ago

> You might have different personal experiences with alcohol, but you can't deny the author his. I can deny the author his unfounded generalizations, though. He's explaining why he doesn't like getting trashed, going out to a club and having a dozen drinks. All his bullet points are about that situation. Sure, I agree that is bad. It results in hangovers, feeling shitty, large expenditures of cash, and other such bad events. So: don't do that. But that's not a problem with alcohol, that's a problem with party/club culture. But don't write an article about something different. If you're writing about why you've changed your ways from going out to clubs and getting hammered, entitle it "why I no longer go out to clubs and get hammered". Don't try to over-generalize your experience.

kylec 12y ago
Not all the author's reasons have to with going out or party/club culture. Look no further than the first two points: - It makes me feel bleh. - Alcohol does not increase my enjoyment of activities. Those points have nothing to do with binge drinking or party/club culture, and are sufficient justification for the author's preferences (Though I maintain that no justification is necessary at all). Everything else is just additional examples of drawbacks, and there's nothing wrong with them being specific to a specific kind of drinking.
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thret 12y ago

I find it hard to believe a glass of wine matched with dinner does not increase enjoyment of the activity. I realise taste is acquired but for someone who already drinks wine surely this is ignorance. I've seen someone order a $100 steak well-done. They may enjoy this meal, but they have no goddamn idea what they are missing.

kylec 12y ago
In your case? Absolutely. In the average case? Probably. In his case? You have no way to know. In my case, I don't like the taste of alcohol, to me it's very pungent. Also, I tend to run on the warmer side, and alcohol tends to heat me up even more. Therefore, for me, a glass of wine with dinner - "matched" or no - decreases my enjoyment of the activity.