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Waffle.io

174 points by Lazare 13y ago

holyjaw 13y ago
I would urge you to take another look at the flow of your landing page. I have literally no clue what your product does even after reading the infographic at the top of the page a few times. - GitHub users want a way to help out on open source projects - waffle.io places a dynamic badge in your GitHub README file for all to see where they can help - Clicking that badge takes anyone to your public waffle.io board where users can view and edit tasks. What?
- codecondo 13y ago
  I think it's Trello for GitHub, correct me if I'm wrong.
- deleted 13y ago
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  - scrollaway 13y ago
    > Waffle operates as a lean startup - we're moving fast and our product is, too. We're now a full time team (Waffle was originally a summer intern project) operating as an Enterprise Lean Startup within Rally Software. We've pivoted Waffle's direction a bit based on customer need, but we haven't yet launched our new landing page to reflect our learnings. Absolutely everything in those sentences sounded corporatey. 350+ characters to basically say "We're working on a new landing page". This is not criticism, because either way I'm not your target audience, but I do hope you have some sense of self-awareness.
    - ashumz 13y ago
      Edit: We're working on a new landing page that we think does a better job of describing what our product does and is responsive and mobile friendly: http://screencast.com/t/IZnoWChXyQ http://screencast.com/t/IZnoWChXyQ At the risk of sounding too "corporatey" again, but to answer the original question of what Waffle does: Yes, Waffle is a kanban-style, "Trello-like" board view of your GitHub Issues. Waffle allows you to effectively use GitHub Issues more effectively for project management (for instance, the board view helps with prioritizing work and visualizing what in progress. You can also do things like view all of your Issues across multiple GitHub repositories on a single board.) Waffle uses GitHub Issues as your board's data model, so any changes you make in GitHub are also reflected on your Waffle board (for example, we'll move issues into the "Done" column of your board when you merge any commits into your default branch that use the fixes/solves/closes GitHub Issues syntax.) We're working towards automating even more movement of Issues across your Waffle board based on actions you already take in GitHub.
  - Hansi 13y ago
    Congratulation, you don't understand people at all. You wrote all this non-constructive frothy reply without answering the fundamental question holyjaw put forth: > I have literally no clue what your product does even after reading the infographic at the top of the page a few times.
    - codecondo 13y ago
      Tank you.
- scrollaway 13y ago
  I strongly dislike everything about waffle.io. I feel bad about it, because these are good people who more than likely love their product and it's getting a lot of hate here despite them coming here to respond to feedback... but. 1. Most people here are confused about what this is for. After understanding what it's for, I find that it's not even a solution looking for a problem... it's a force-fed solution to a non-existant problem for most people. This solves something maybe 1% of us have encountered, but makes the assumption that everyone on Github would benefit from this. 2. "waffle.io" seriously? Is this the result of an internal "I need a random english word that is available on .io" poll, or is there a deeper more disturbing connotation with the pronounced blue theme on the site? I'm sure naming your service like this doesn't help the "I have no idea what this is about" crowd. I can't be the only one tired of those completely meaningless names... I mean specifically the hyper-generic names of services targeted at specifically the github/bitbucket crowd. I cannot quite put my finger on it, but some of these names are trying too hard to be cutesy and random. Maybe I'm seeing something that's not there though.
  - arethuza 13y ago
    I think that's being rather harsh - to me it's trying to link a Trello style community/team tool on top of Github. And as someone who has tried to get a largish team, including non developers, to collaborate using existing Github features this might well be a good idea. Also the name - very few domain names seem to have much connection with the domain anymore, picking on this crowd for having a weird domain name hardly seems fair when everyone pretty much has weird domain names these days (unless they have boat loads of cash). Edit: If anyone from waffle.io is here, first of all well done - looks like an interesting tool, secondly I'm not sure your "Why don't you open source your workflow?" is doing your product justice - I was slightly confused when trying to understand that first diagram, but maybe that's just me. When I scrolled further down the page and saw the example it all seemed clear - but not everyone might scroll down.
    - ashumz 13y ago
      Thanks. :) I posted this below, but in case you missed it, we agree. We have a new landing page getting ready to launch. Here's a preview of what we're working towards: http://screencast.com/t/IZnoWChXyQ http://screencast.com/t/IZnoWChXyQ
rpedela 13y ago
I am also confused what this is. I think it is a dashboard of tasks for a GitHub project. If so, why not just use GitHub issues directly for the task list?
- michaelmior 13y ago
  I believe the idea is that Waffle makes it easier to prioritize and organize issues, e.g. GitHub issues + kanban
catshirt 13y ago
the benefit of open sourcing my code is that other people can use it or contribute to it. why would i ever want to open source my task queue? if this is a valid use case, how does this really differ from something like Github issues or a public Trello board? comparing https://waffle.io/waffleio/waffle.io https://waffle.io/waffleio/waffle.io to https://trello.com/b/nC8QJJoZ/trello-development https://trello.com/b/nC8QJJoZ/trello-development i'm having trouble differentiating.
- xiaq 13y ago
  As a recent comment suggests it's a "kanban board".
  - jmickey 13y ago
    From the Trello wiki page - "Trello uses a paradigm for managing projects known as kanban"
- ashumz 13y ago
  To give you a real example, I recently talked with the founder of Neovim who chose Waffle to manage their large open source project (https://waffle.io/blog/2014/04/17/open-source-spotlight-neovim/ https://waffle.io/blog/2014/04/17/open-source-spotlight-neov...). The main reason they used Waffle over Trello was the integration with GitHub Issues (the Trello-Github integration options aren't great, and there's difficulty around trying to get people to update the status of work in a tool that doesn't tightly integrate with all of GitHub's Issues, commits, PR's, etc.)
benwerd 13y ago
I get this. Yes, you could use the GitHub issues board; no problem. But the issues there are not inviting, and it's non-obvious to newcomers if they should pick up a task. Here you're inviting people - literally, "please, come help us with this" - and making it super-clear that they should jump in. I think there's more to do to make open source projects friendly (better, happier documentation, for a start), but I don't think this is a bad addition at all. Also, waffles are tasty.
TheBiv 13y ago
I tried to view on mobile and the page is unreadable. OP, if you are the creator of the site, please consider having some sort of mobile optimized page! (Even if it is just an info page)
- prawn 13y ago
  Even a site that I could read on mobile would be good. Resizing doesn't help with this one so some text and images can't be viewed.
  - giles 13y ago
    Rally Software, the parent behind this product, doesn't even have a mobile optimized version of their core agile product [1]. It's outrageously frustrating when I need to update my tasks or add stories on the go. [1] http://www.rallydev.com/ http://www.rallydev.com/
    - markmsmith 13y ago
      Experimental mobile support for the core product, ALM: https://github.com/RallySoftwareLabs/alm-mobile https://github.com/RallySoftwareLabs/alm-mobile
simonsarris 13y ago
This is wonderful. The main page doesn't mention the term, but the easiest way to describe this is that it is adding a Kanban board to Github. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_board http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_board The simplicity to effectiveness ratio of Kanban boards really impress me.
- matthewarkin 13y ago
  Huboard http://huboard.com http://huboard.com is the Kanban board my employer uses for github and its pretty nice. It'll autoupdate if any team member changes the board.
  - davej 13y ago
    There's also TaskTub: http://www.tasktub.com/ http://www.tasktub.com/
- StavrosK 13y ago
  This does sound like a fantastic idea. Github issues are "things that are broken", so something that's "things people can work on" is great to have. Bonus points if you can sort issues by difficulty, so newcomers know what the easy pickings are.
- antocv 13y ago
  Compare this page to libressl.org Reading it three times and I still dont get it what its for for whom and what it does. But at least it looks fancy.
unfixable 13y ago
...and the pedants who've never added value to anything in their entire lives arrive right on cue to complain about page formatting and to question what purpose this serves (because, of course it would be too difficult to read the page for more than 2 minutes). This community truly is toxic. Luckily the Dropbox guys never listened to any of you
geuis 13y ago
Come on people. I'm so tired of most of my comments being reminders to check your UX! http://imgur.com/82DqYXl http://imgur.com/82DqYXl I'll short out most, if not all, of your responses here. I'm on mobile. I don't care if you designed for the desktop web or not, most visitors will be mobile web. Just test it. And for Cthulu's sake rotate your phone 90 degrees to make sure it works.
- greggman 13y ago
  Or use the iOS Simulator if you're on Mac. It's simple, it launches in seconds, you can point it to localhost on your machine if you're serving locally for testing, and you can check old versions of the OS with older versions of Safari (like 7.0 where you couldn't minimize the UI). In their defense users who actually want to contribute will likely be on desktop but I get your point. You're reading HN on mobile and want to be able to see the site.
  - chrismorgan 13y ago
    Start by just using basic viewport size testing, resizing your browser or using a tool like Firefox’s responsive design mode (Ctrl+Shift+M, not sure about the shortcut on Mac OS X).
    - zo1 13y ago
      Nice, I never knew about that feature, thanks! Just tried it out on some of my work, and it's a breeze to use. However, seems that scrollbars behave slightly differently in it. In my case they aren't appearing in certain sub-containers. Have you had any such issues with it?
  - MaxGabriel 13y ago
    You can also use Safari web inspector for both the simulator and iOS devices, which is really nice.
- chrismorgan 13y ago
  This is the problem of responsive‐viewport‐by‐default in CSS frameworks: when people are lazy, the last state of that site is worse than the first.
misframer 13y ago
I like how they set the price: $(function() { var price = localStorage.getItem('price'); if(!price) { price = Math.ceil(Math.random() * 3); localStorage.setItem('price', price); } $('#price').html(price); });
- akosednar 13y ago
  And there seems to be no validation of the localStorage. I could set it to 0.000001 for example and it would work.
- paukiatwee 13y ago
  This is interesting. Any one know what is the reason to use "random" pricing? Especially only diff 1-2 dollars.
  - chadkruse 13y ago
    Waffle user here...they're just doing some market/price testing. They don't actually charge a fee yet.
kgreene2 13y ago
This seems fairly similar to HuBoard. Anyone know of a reason to use this over that?
sejordan 13y ago
Notice that this app was created by a group of interns at Rally, which is a larger, publicly traded company. This isn't just someone's side project...
diestl 13y ago
I have a rule, if I can't understand what your start-up is about from your home page then it won't work.
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mikegioia 13y ago
I think this is a fantastic idea. I've often felt that the Github issues page is too uninviting for non-developers (and that may be okay for lots of projects) but it's obvious to me how beneficial it is to provide a kanban interface for end-users that ties directly to the github issues.
NateDad 13y ago
You need to clean up the wording some. When I first read Clicking that badge takes anyone to your public waffle.io board where users can view and edit tasks. It sounds like random github users can decide what tasks get worked on. "Users" is vague here. Also "opensource your workflow" isn't clear. I had no idea that meant "make your kanban board public". Why not "Waffle.io is a public kanban board that deeply integrates with github issues"? Clear, to the point, no one complains that they can't tell what the product does.
pessimism 13y ago
Communicating the progress of a project or feature is something really important I think open-source people need to realize, when they have a fairly non-technical audience. I think GitHub milestones are central to productivity and communicating progress to a base of interested parties, so I would recommend focusing on milestones specifically—also to encourage their use—rather than showing one huge list of issues by default. It’s fairly disorienting, even to me as a regular GitHub user and contributor. Those cards take up an awful lot of vertical space, which I don’t think is going to scale well with a large project. Look at project like Bootstrap: https://waffle.io/twbs/bootstrap https://waffle.io/twbs/bootstrap. Because you load the issue on scroll, I can’t even get an idea of how many issues there are from the size of my scroll bar. Milestones are the main way for repo owners to manage a large number of issues. From what I could tell, you can sort by milestones using a filter, but for some reason, the list of milestones wouldn’t load? A while back, I created a small never-to-be-finished project called milestones.js to involve a general audience in the progress of upcoming features—taking advantage of milestones: https://github.com/ndarville/milestones.js https://github.com/ndarville/milestones.js. At the bottom of the README are some related projects that might be of interest to you as well. In other words: 1. Find out who you want your users to be. 2. Find out what they should be shown. 3. Focus on milestones, GitHub’s killer productivity feature. 4. Fit more issues vertically; the card metaphor isn’t that important. 5. Know that the dynamic loading of issues on scroll is working against you from a UX perspective.
pvnick 13y ago
I like the idea, it seems really helpful, but just as a warning if you call your site Waffle and blue is the prominent color, especially on the logo, you're going to cause people to make connections that shouldn't be made...
- BryanB55 13y ago
  If its any consolation for the OP I have absolutely no idea what this is referring to and haven't made any connections even after reading this and trying to... blue waffles?
  - pvnick 13y ago
    Sorry, I should have included more information: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/blue-waffle http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/blue-waffle I recommend against just googling it. It's used as one of those "gotcha" images for unsuspecting internet users.
- Singletoned 13y ago
  I agree. I immediately closed the site down and came and checked the comments as I assumed it some sort of trap.
erewh0n 13y ago
My favourite part about their front page is the quote at the bottom: "A waffle is like a pancake with a syrup trap." - Mitch Hedberg
hcarvalhoalves 13y ago
Like the old (now left to rot by Atlassian) Bitbucket Cards. This kind of scrum/kanban board with issues integration is really useful, I'm developing my version as well. [1] http://www.bitbucketcards.com http://www.bitbucketcards.com
pekk 13y ago
Other than taking the nominal appearance of a Kanban board, I can't figure out what is possible to do with this that isn't possible to do with Github issues, in a non-vertical format.
reinier_s4g 13y ago
Awesome!! It remains me the UI of Trello boards which is pretty cool IMHO
rcruzeiro 13y ago
I think something good might come out of this and I actually loved the name (I clicked on this because waffle.io souded cool). What I really think , in terms of design, is that you should get rid of that 3d rendered waffle.io image with that shadow. Not only it makes the website look like something of 5+ years ago but you can also see that the image is heavily compressed and is not looking good at all.
thinkersilver 13y ago
Great idea. Obscure landing page. It's practically impossible to know what this does,unless you click on the [our board] link. Even after scrolling all the way to the bottom of the page where you are asked to part with money. It would be a shame for such a great idea to be passed by due to lack of clarity.
dangoor 13y ago
We use kanban for the Brackets[1] project, so I've been looking into tools like this recently. The most promising one I've seen so far is Octokan[2]. What I like about Octokan is that it: 1. uses GitHub Issue labels to represent the columns (unlike Waffle) 2. doesn't require all of our open issues to be "on the board" 3. is faster than Huboard 4. uses horizontal scrolling with fixed width columns like Trello rather than trying to pack all of the columns into the width of the window (also in contrast to Huboard) We currently use Trello for our backlog and kanban[3] but it is kind of painful to synchronize this with GitHub (and so we don't... there's a lot of "small item" work that happens only in GitHub and is not tracked through our kanban flow). None of the tools I've seen provide us with cycle time and throughput metrics, which is a drag. We're likely to write a script to pull the data out of GitHub and calculate those values. (GitHub, alas, does not track when labels are added or removed... so we have to start there in our custom work.) I think it's great that there are people building better visualizations on top of GitHub Issues and I'm looking forward to seeing how tools like Waffle, Octokan, Huboard, etc. evolve. [1]: http://brackets.io http://brackets.io [2]: http://octokan.com/ http://octokan.com/ [3]: https://trello.com/b/LCDud1Nd/brackets https://trello.com/b/LCDud1Nd/brackets

174 points by Lazare 13y ago

I would urge you to take another look at the flow of your landing page. I have literally no clue what your product does even after reading the infographic at the top of the page a few times. - GitHub users want a way to help out on open source projects - waffle.io places a dynamic badge in your GitHub README file for all to see where they can help - Clicking that badge takes anyone to your public waffle.io board where users can view and edit tasks. What?

codecondo 13y ago
I think it's Trello for GitHub, correct me if I'm wrong.
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- scrollaway 13y ago
  > Waffle operates as a lean startup - we're moving fast and our product is, too. We're now a full time team (Waffle was originally a summer intern project) operating as an Enterprise Lean Startup within Rally Software. We've pivoted Waffle's direction a bit based on customer need, but we haven't yet launched our new landing page to reflect our learnings. Absolutely everything in those sentences sounded corporatey. 350+ characters to basically say "We're working on a new landing page". This is not criticism, because either way I'm not your target audience, but I do hope you have some sense of self-awareness.
  - ashumz 13y ago
    Edit: We're working on a new landing page that we think does a better job of describing what our product does and is responsive and mobile friendly: http://screencast.com/t/IZnoWChXyQ http://screencast.com/t/IZnoWChXyQ At the risk of sounding too "corporatey" again, but to answer the original question of what Waffle does: Yes, Waffle is a kanban-style, "Trello-like" board view of your GitHub Issues. Waffle allows you to effectively use GitHub Issues more effectively for project management (for instance, the board view helps with prioritizing work and visualizing what in progress. You can also do things like view all of your Issues across multiple GitHub repositories on a single board.) Waffle uses GitHub Issues as your board's data model, so any changes you make in GitHub are also reflected on your Waffle board (for example, we'll move issues into the "Done" column of your board when you merge any commits into your default branch that use the fixes/solves/closes GitHub Issues syntax.) We're working towards automating even more movement of Issues across your Waffle board based on actions you already take in GitHub.
- Hansi 13y ago
  Congratulation, you don't understand people at all. You wrote all this non-constructive frothy reply without answering the fundamental question holyjaw put forth: > I have literally no clue what your product does even after reading the infographic at the top of the page a few times.
  - codecondo 13y ago
    Tank you.
scrollaway 13y ago
I strongly dislike everything about waffle.io. I feel bad about it, because these are good people who more than likely love their product and it's getting a lot of hate here despite them coming here to respond to feedback... but. 1. Most people here are confused about what this is for. After understanding what it's for, I find that it's not even a solution looking for a problem... it's a force-fed solution to a non-existant problem for most people. This solves something maybe 1% of us have encountered, but makes the assumption that everyone on Github would benefit from this. 2. "waffle.io" seriously? Is this the result of an internal "I need a random english word that is available on .io" poll, or is there a deeper more disturbing connotation with the pronounced blue theme on the site? I'm sure naming your service like this doesn't help the "I have no idea what this is about" crowd. I can't be the only one tired of those completely meaningless names... I mean specifically the hyper-generic names of services targeted at specifically the github/bitbucket crowd. I cannot quite put my finger on it, but some of these names are trying too hard to be cutesy and random. Maybe I'm seeing something that's not there though.
- arethuza 13y ago
  I think that's being rather harsh - to me it's trying to link a Trello style community/team tool on top of Github. And as someone who has tried to get a largish team, including non developers, to collaborate using existing Github features this might well be a good idea. Also the name - very few domain names seem to have much connection with the domain anymore, picking on this crowd for having a weird domain name hardly seems fair when everyone pretty much has weird domain names these days (unless they have boat loads of cash). Edit: If anyone from waffle.io is here, first of all well done - looks like an interesting tool, secondly I'm not sure your "Why don't you open source your workflow?" is doing your product justice - I was slightly confused when trying to understand that first diagram, but maybe that's just me. When I scrolled further down the page and saw the example it all seemed clear - but not everyone might scroll down.
  - ashumz 13y ago
    Thanks. :) I posted this below, but in case you missed it, we agree. We have a new landing page getting ready to launch. Here's a preview of what we're working towards: http://screencast.com/t/IZnoWChXyQ http://screencast.com/t/IZnoWChXyQ

rpedela 13y ago

I am also confused what this is. I think it is a dashboard of tasks for a GitHub project. If so, why not just use GitHub issues directly for the task list?

michaelmior 13y ago
I believe the idea is that Waffle makes it easier to prioritize and organize issues, e.g. GitHub issues + kanban

catshirt 13y ago

the benefit of open sourcing my code is that other people can use it or contribute to it. why would i ever want to open source my task queue? if this is a valid use case, how does this really differ from something like Github issues or a public Trello board? comparing https://waffle.io/waffleio/waffle.io https://waffle.io/waffleio/waffle.io to https://trello.com/b/nC8QJJoZ/trello-development https://trello.com/b/nC8QJJoZ/trello-development i'm having trouble differentiating.

xiaq 13y ago
As a recent comment suggests it's a "kanban board".
- jmickey 13y ago
  From the Trello wiki page - "Trello uses a paradigm for managing projects known as kanban"
ashumz 13y ago
To give you a real example, I recently talked with the founder of Neovim who chose Waffle to manage their large open source project (https://waffle.io/blog/2014/04/17/open-source-spotlight-neovim/ https://waffle.io/blog/2014/04/17/open-source-spotlight-neov...). The main reason they used Waffle over Trello was the integration with GitHub Issues (the Trello-Github integration options aren't great, and there's difficulty around trying to get people to update the status of work in a tool that doesn't tightly integrate with all of GitHub's Issues, commits, PR's, etc.)

benwerd 13y ago

I get this. Yes, you could use the GitHub issues board; no problem. But the issues there are not inviting, and it's non-obvious to newcomers if they should pick up a task. Here you're inviting people - literally, "please, come help us with this" - and making it super-clear that they should jump in. I think there's more to do to make open source projects friendly (better, happier documentation, for a start), but I don't think this is a bad addition at all. Also, waffles are tasty.

TheBiv 13y ago

I tried to view on mobile and the page is unreadable. OP, if you are the creator of the site, please consider having some sort of mobile optimized page! (Even if it is just an info page)

prawn 13y ago
Even a site that I could read on mobile would be good. Resizing doesn't help with this one so some text and images can't be viewed.
- giles 13y ago
  Rally Software, the parent behind this product, doesn't even have a mobile optimized version of their core agile product [1]. It's outrageously frustrating when I need to update my tasks or add stories on the go. [1] http://www.rallydev.com/ http://www.rallydev.com/
  - markmsmith 13y ago
    Experimental mobile support for the core product, ALM: https://github.com/RallySoftwareLabs/alm-mobile https://github.com/RallySoftwareLabs/alm-mobile

simonsarris 13y ago

This is wonderful. The main page doesn't mention the term, but the easiest way to describe this is that it is adding a Kanban board to Github. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_board http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_board The simplicity to effectiveness ratio of Kanban boards really impress me.

matthewarkin 13y ago
Huboard http://huboard.com http://huboard.com is the Kanban board my employer uses for github and its pretty nice. It'll autoupdate if any team member changes the board.
- davej 13y ago
  There's also TaskTub: http://www.tasktub.com/ http://www.tasktub.com/
StavrosK 13y ago
This does sound like a fantastic idea. Github issues are "things that are broken", so something that's "things people can work on" is great to have. Bonus points if you can sort issues by difficulty, so newcomers know what the easy pickings are.
antocv 13y ago
Compare this page to libressl.org Reading it three times and I still dont get it what its for for whom and what it does. But at least it looks fancy.

unfixable 13y ago

...and the pedants who've never added value to anything in their entire lives arrive right on cue to complain about page formatting and to question what purpose this serves (because, of course it would be too difficult to read the page for more than 2 minutes). This community truly is toxic. Luckily the Dropbox guys never listened to any of you

geuis 13y ago

Come on people. I'm so tired of most of my comments being reminders to check your UX! http://imgur.com/82DqYXl http://imgur.com/82DqYXl I'll short out most, if not all, of your responses here. I'm on mobile. I don't care if you designed for the desktop web or not, most visitors will be mobile web. Just test it. And for Cthulu's sake rotate your phone 90 degrees to make sure it works.

greggman 13y ago
Or use the iOS Simulator if you're on Mac. It's simple, it launches in seconds, you can point it to localhost on your machine if you're serving locally for testing, and you can check old versions of the OS with older versions of Safari (like 7.0 where you couldn't minimize the UI). In their defense users who actually want to contribute will likely be on desktop but I get your point. You're reading HN on mobile and want to be able to see the site.
- chrismorgan 13y ago
  Start by just using basic viewport size testing, resizing your browser or using a tool like Firefox’s responsive design mode (Ctrl+Shift+M, not sure about the shortcut on Mac OS X).
  - zo1 13y ago
    Nice, I never knew about that feature, thanks! Just tried it out on some of my work, and it's a breeze to use. However, seems that scrollbars behave slightly differently in it. In my case they aren't appearing in certain sub-containers. Have you had any such issues with it?
- MaxGabriel 13y ago
  You can also use Safari web inspector for both the simulator and iOS devices, which is really nice.
chrismorgan 13y ago
This is the problem of responsive‐viewport‐by‐default in CSS frameworks: when people are lazy, the last state of that site is worse than the first.

misframer 13y ago

I like how they set the price: $(function() { var price = localStorage.getItem('price'); if(!price) { price = Math.ceil(Math.random() * 3); localStorage.setItem('price', price); } $('#price').html(price); });

akosednar 13y ago
And there seems to be no validation of the localStorage. I could set it to 0.000001 for example and it would work.
paukiatwee 13y ago
This is interesting. Any one know what is the reason to use "random" pricing? Especially only diff 1-2 dollars.
- chadkruse 13y ago
  Waffle user here...they're just doing some market/price testing. They don't actually charge a fee yet.

kgreene2 13y ago

This seems fairly similar to HuBoard. Anyone know of a reason to use this over that?

sejordan 13y ago

Notice that this app was created by a group of interns at Rally, which is a larger, publicly traded company. This isn't just someone's side project...

diestl 13y ago

I have a rule, if I can't understand what your start-up is about from your home page then it won't work.

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mikegioia 13y ago

I think this is a fantastic idea. I've often felt that the Github issues page is too uninviting for non-developers (and that may be okay for lots of projects) but it's obvious to me how beneficial it is to provide a kanban interface for end-users that ties directly to the github issues.

NateDad 13y ago

You need to clean up the wording some. When I first read Clicking that badge takes anyone to your public waffle.io board where users can view and edit tasks. It sounds like random github users can decide what tasks get worked on. "Users" is vague here. Also "opensource your workflow" isn't clear. I had no idea that meant "make your kanban board public". Why not "Waffle.io is a public kanban board that deeply integrates with github issues"? Clear, to the point, no one complains that they can't tell what the product does.

pessimism 13y ago

Communicating the progress of a project or feature is something really important I think open-source people need to realize, when they have a fairly non-technical audience. I think GitHub milestones are central to productivity and communicating progress to a base of interested parties, so I would recommend focusing on milestones specifically—also to encourage their use—rather than showing one huge list of issues by default. It’s fairly disorienting, even to me as a regular GitHub user and contributor. Those cards take up an awful lot of vertical space, which I don’t think is going to scale well with a large project. Look at project like Bootstrap: https://waffle.io/twbs/bootstrap https://waffle.io/twbs/bootstrap. Because you load the issue on scroll, I can’t even get an idea of how many issues there are from the size of my scroll bar. Milestones are the main way for repo owners to manage a large number of issues. From what I could tell, you can sort by milestones using a filter, but for some reason, the list of milestones wouldn’t load? A while back, I created a small never-to-be-finished project called milestones.js to involve a general audience in the progress of upcoming features—taking advantage of milestones: https://github.com/ndarville/milestones.js https://github.com/ndarville/milestones.js. At the bottom of the README are some related projects that might be of interest to you as well. In other words: 1. Find out who you want your users to be. 2. Find out what they should be shown. 3. Focus on milestones, GitHub’s killer productivity feature. 4. Fit more issues vertically; the card metaphor isn’t that important. 5. Know that the dynamic loading of issues on scroll is working against you from a UX perspective.

pvnick 13y ago

I like the idea, it seems really helpful, but just as a warning if you call your site Waffle and blue is the prominent color, especially on the logo, you're going to cause people to make connections that shouldn't be made...

BryanB55 13y ago
If its any consolation for the OP I have absolutely no idea what this is referring to and haven't made any connections even after reading this and trying to... blue waffles?
- pvnick 13y ago
  Sorry, I should have included more information: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/blue-waffle http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/blue-waffle I recommend against just googling it. It's used as one of those "gotcha" images for unsuspecting internet users.
Singletoned 13y ago
I agree. I immediately closed the site down and came and checked the comments as I assumed it some sort of trap.

erewh0n 13y ago

My favourite part about their front page is the quote at the bottom: "A waffle is like a pancake with a syrup trap." - Mitch Hedberg

hcarvalhoalves 13y ago

Like the old (now left to rot by Atlassian) Bitbucket Cards. This kind of scrum/kanban board with issues integration is really useful, I'm developing my version as well. [1] http://www.bitbucketcards.com http://www.bitbucketcards.com

pekk 13y ago

Other than taking the nominal appearance of a Kanban board, I can't figure out what is possible to do with this that isn't possible to do with Github issues, in a non-vertical format.

reinier_s4g 13y ago

Awesome!! It remains me the UI of Trello boards which is pretty cool IMHO

rcruzeiro 13y ago

I think something good might come out of this and I actually loved the name (I clicked on this because waffle.io souded cool). What I really think , in terms of design, is that you should get rid of that 3d rendered waffle.io image with that shadow. Not only it makes the website look like something of 5+ years ago but you can also see that the image is heavily compressed and is not looking good at all.

thinkersilver 13y ago

Great idea. Obscure landing page. It's practically impossible to know what this does,unless you click on the [our board] link. Even after scrolling all the way to the bottom of the page where you are asked to part with money. It would be a shame for such a great idea to be passed by due to lack of clarity.

dangoor 13y ago

We use kanban for the Brackets[1] project, so I've been looking into tools like this recently. The most promising one I've seen so far is Octokan[2]. What I like about Octokan is that it: 1. uses GitHub Issue labels to represent the columns (unlike Waffle) 2. doesn't require all of our open issues to be "on the board" 3. is faster than Huboard 4. uses horizontal scrolling with fixed width columns like Trello rather than trying to pack all of the columns into the width of the window (also in contrast to Huboard) We currently use Trello for our backlog and kanban[3] but it is kind of painful to synchronize this with GitHub (and so we don't... there's a lot of "small item" work that happens only in GitHub and is not tracked through our kanban flow). None of the tools I've seen provide us with cycle time and throughput metrics, which is a drag. We're likely to write a script to pull the data out of GitHub and calculate those values. (GitHub, alas, does not track when labels are added or removed... so we have to start there in our custom work.) I think it's great that there are people building better visualizations on top of GitHub Issues and I'm looking forward to seeing how tools like Waffle, Octokan, Huboard, etc. evolve. [1]: http://brackets.io http://brackets.io [2]: http://octokan.com/ http://octokan.com/ [3]: https://trello.com/b/LCDud1Nd/brackets https://trello.com/b/LCDud1Nd/brackets