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I know this is likely an unpopular opinion but here it goes: what the fuck does this have to do with under-representation in our industry? There's medical-them

by weland 13y ago

I know this is likely an unpopular opinion but here it goes: what the fuck does this have to do with under-representation in our industry? There's medical-themed porn, school-themed porn and I'm sure someone in Japan has made at least one hacking-themed porn movie until now. That doesn't stop women from becoming doctors, going to school or hacking. There are striptease-themed news, too, and that doesn't prevent women going into television. Is the site ridiculous and tasteless? Definitely. It's also not implying that women are lifeless beautiful objects who can't program any more than cheerleading implies that women are lifeless beautiful objects who suck at sports or strip clubs imply that women are lifeless beautiful objects who are only good at dancing. Would you also object to women at your favourite strip club wearing Tux bras? Yeah, it's a piece of thrash, but also not more relevant to our industry than teasenews.com is to journalism.

pxlbryn 13y ago
The problem for me is that my wife is constantly trying to get into programming. The industry is already gender-biased enough. If she thinks that this is the kind of thing that programmers want - she's going to be turned off from continuing down that path.
- PedroBatista 13y ago
  Maybe your wife is much more intelligent than you think. Maybe she is not an impressionable toddler and can laugh at both the ridiculousness of this site and your reaction to it. :)
- weland 13y ago
  Mine complained they don't have a version with male hotties, too. FML.
  - ohbuttheydo 13y ago
    http://codedicks.com/ http://codedicks.com/
petercooper 13y ago
The big difference is this isn't programming-themed porn, but porn-themed programming education. The context within which someone wants to watch porn of any variety is rather different to that in which someone wants to learn how to program and stumbles across stuff like this.
- weland 13y ago
  Much like Teasenews is porn-themed journalism and Game of Thrones is a porn-themed entertainment. Bodies naked to various degrees are pretty much omnipresent today. Not necessarily a good thing, but it's not like you can step away from that horrible website and not walk into something comparable within five minutes.
wsc981 13y ago
> "I know this is likely an unpopular opinion but here it goes: what the fuck does this have to do with under-representation in our industry?" I agree. Aren't woman underrepresented in most STEM jobs anyways? And overrepresented in other jobs like e.g. kindergarten teachers? Woman are just wired differently as men. And perhaps woman are also conditioned differently as men from a young age (girls get to play with dolls, boys with cars and legos). There could be an evolutionary reason for this, since ages ago most men were probably hunters while most woman likely tended to the children. Of course sexism in tech is bad and we should try to reduce sexism wherever possible, but that's a different issue. I'm not sure we should try to push woman into technology (or fields like construction, etc...), just as I'm not sure we should try to push men into jobs where men are underrepresented.
- weland 13y ago
  I don't know it's a matter of men and women being "wired differently" or not, what I'm implying is that seriously, this site, while tasteless and of questionable educational quality, is really no more sexist than your average TV commercial, shopping mall or bar. Not everything with boobs is sexist, ffs.
  - amassparadox 13y ago
    It's not, but should we also not protest those as well? Do we not teach children wrong by showing we are displeased? That silence means their actions are acceptable. Perhaps not reward-worthy, but acceptable. Thus are you saying that the behaviors shown on TV, shopping malls, bars, that is how you want you, your friends, your children to be treated?
    - weland 13y ago
      It's how my children are going to be treated this way by anyone who thinks that this kind of behaviour is acceptable. I'd much rather have my children think for themselves and know how to deal with people who behave in a way they think is unacceptable to them, than futilely protest against something that many people find absolutely fine.

by weland 13y ago

pxlbryn 13y ago

The problem for me is that my wife is constantly trying to get into programming. The industry is already gender-biased enough. If she thinks that this is the kind of thing that programmers want - she's going to be turned off from continuing down that path.

PedroBatista 13y ago
Maybe your wife is much more intelligent than you think. Maybe she is not an impressionable toddler and can laugh at both the ridiculousness of this site and your reaction to it. :)
weland 13y ago
Mine complained they don't have a version with male hotties, too. FML.
- ohbuttheydo 13y ago
  http://codedicks.com/ http://codedicks.com/

petercooper 13y ago

The big difference is this isn't programming-themed porn, but porn-themed programming education. The context within which someone wants to watch porn of any variety is rather different to that in which someone wants to learn how to program and stumbles across stuff like this.

weland 13y ago
Much like Teasenews is porn-themed journalism and Game of Thrones is a porn-themed entertainment. Bodies naked to various degrees are pretty much omnipresent today. Not necessarily a good thing, but it's not like you can step away from that horrible website and not walk into something comparable within five minutes.

wsc981 13y ago

> "I know this is likely an unpopular opinion but here it goes: what the fuck does this have to do with under-representation in our industry?" I agree. Aren't woman underrepresented in most STEM jobs anyways? And overrepresented in other jobs like e.g. kindergarten teachers? Woman are just wired differently as men. And perhaps woman are also conditioned differently as men from a young age (girls get to play with dolls, boys with cars and legos). There could be an evolutionary reason for this, since ages ago most men were probably hunters while most woman likely tended to the children. Of course sexism in tech is bad and we should try to reduce sexism wherever possible, but that's a different issue. I'm not sure we should try to push woman into technology (or fields like construction, etc...), just as I'm not sure we should try to push men into jobs where men are underrepresented.

weland 13y ago
I don't know it's a matter of men and women being "wired differently" or not, what I'm implying is that seriously, this site, while tasteless and of questionable educational quality, is really no more sexist than your average TV commercial, shopping mall or bar. Not everything with boobs is sexist, ffs.
- amassparadox 13y ago
  It's not, but should we also not protest those as well? Do we not teach children wrong by showing we are displeased? That silence means their actions are acceptable. Perhaps not reward-worthy, but acceptable. Thus are you saying that the behaviors shown on TV, shopping malls, bars, that is how you want you, your friends, your children to be treated?
  - weland 13y ago
    It's how my children are going to be treated this way by anyone who thinks that this kind of behaviour is acceptable. I'd much rather have my children think for themselves and know how to deal with people who behave in a way they think is unacceptable to them, than futilely protest against something that many people find absolutely fine.