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> Here's his statement again, rewritten without the Fox News-style editorialization And here's me applying your own technique to that sentence: "Here's an edit

by SEMW 12y ago

> Here's his statement again, rewritten without the Fox News-style editorialization And here's me applying your own technique to that sentence: "Here's an editorial rewritten without the editorialising". You then feign surprise that that doesn't leave much. DHH's point was that the resulting graph of intermediary objects is (in his experience) overly complex - the implication being that, where possible, simple is better than complex (which, yes, is a value judgement).

twerquie 12y ago
DHH does have a point, but he makes it in a manner that is hyperbolic, accusatory, narrow-minded, stubborn and often rude. I find him to be a negative voice in the community and a dangerous leader. I am happy to fight fire with fire where necessary, and agree with the tone of the article linked by the OP.
- otikik 12y ago
  > hyperbolic, accusatory, narrow-minded, stubborn and often rude Plus: > fight fire with fire Seriosly.
  - twerquie 12y ago
    Sure, why not? See the "asshole vacuum" scene in HBO's Silicon Valley S01E02.
- t4nkd 12y ago
  This is the DHH everyone has come to expect, and enjoys reading. The entire premise of rails is based on putting negative light on configuration, this is sort of David's M.O. The rails community has come to terms with the lack of pedantically focused programming practices that DHH embodies, however, his whole aura is one of an individual who has experienced extreme success, and therefore he's still an important community asset. He's a thought leader because he has created immense value from his opinions, and his vitriolic opinion of software architecture and abstraction has always existed. You can literally trace this back to RSpec. I still argue OP isn't doing anything to support an opposite opinion, and is simply feeding the perspective that DHH was trying to be inflammatory instead of opinionated.

by SEMW 12y ago

twerquie 12y ago

DHH does have a point, but he makes it in a manner that is hyperbolic, accusatory, narrow-minded, stubborn and often rude. I find him to be a negative voice in the community and a dangerous leader. I am happy to fight fire with fire where necessary, and agree with the tone of the article linked by the OP.

otikik 12y ago
> hyperbolic, accusatory, narrow-minded, stubborn and often rude Plus: > fight fire with fire Seriosly.
- twerquie 12y ago
  Sure, why not? See the "asshole vacuum" scene in HBO's Silicon Valley S01E02.
t4nkd 12y ago
This is the DHH everyone has come to expect, and enjoys reading. The entire premise of rails is based on putting negative light on configuration, this is sort of David's M.O. The rails community has come to terms with the lack of pedantically focused programming practices that DHH embodies, however, his whole aura is one of an individual who has experienced extreme success, and therefore he's still an important community asset. He's a thought leader because he has created immense value from his opinions, and his vitriolic opinion of software architecture and abstraction has always existed. You can literally trace this back to RSpec. I still argue OP isn't doing anything to support an opposite opinion, and is simply feeding the perspective that DHH was trying to be inflammatory instead of opinionated.