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I cannot access it: >Sorry, we couldn't find that page. Here are some others for you to explore. Here's the version from Google cache: http://webcache.googleu

by bru 12y ago

I cannot access it: >Sorry, we couldn't find that page. Here are some others for you to explore. Here's the version from Google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.linkedin.com%2Ftoday%2Fpost%2Farticle%2F20140423114614-44558-shades-of-grey&oq=cache%3Awww.linkedin.com%2Ftoday%2Fpost%2Farticle%2F20140423114614-44558-shades-of-grey http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.l...

piokuc 12y ago
I guess Inge Geerdens, author of the text, and LinkedIn "Influencer" (sic!) removed the page; LinkedIn users were quite harsh with their comments. The logical development, IMHO, would be that: 1) relevant Belgian authorities launch investigation into employees' treatment in her company. Apparently they are forced to work after hours and, unlawfully, not being appropriately paid for the overtime work. 2) Inge gets fired for bringing disgrace to the company she works for as a CEO.
- jrochkind1 12y ago
  Hmm, it's still accessible for me at the original url.
- Zenst 12y ago
  I read many comments and would not call them harsh, realistic yes. If anything rather constructive and tame to what could be worded as a reply to her post.
  - porker 12y ago
    Agreed - and with a more reasonable tone than the HN comments :o)
  - piokuc 12y ago
    I would say the comments (most of them) were "relatively harsh", because usually comments under LinkedIn "Influencers"' blogs are limited to "thank you!", "great!", congratulations, etc. I thought they were pretty honest and not too diplomatic.
- mathattack 12y ago
  Ummmm.... When you fire someone, they take it personally and look for a new job. You can't expect overtime passion from them. What a dingbat!
- kordless 12y ago
  Please try to tone down the amount of speculation and blame you are adding to the story. AFAIK, none of the things you are saying is actually true or have come to pass. Remember, the surest way to spot these types of comments is the lead-in with an ad hominem argument...
  - ulisesrmzroche 12y ago
    Aww come on bro. Half the fun in these gossip threads is speculation anyway.
  - piokuc 12y ago
    I don't see your point. It is clear to me that she admitted breaking Belgian employment law saying things like: "Belgian law makes it very difficult to put such a flexible schedule in a contract. So your best bet is to hire people who share your passion, willing to 'volunteer' on such occasions." Notice the 'volunteer' in quotes... When you put 'volunteer' in quotes it doesn't mean the same, it's just a cynical way of saying that she expects people to be happy working overtime for free. In other comments in this thread by Belgian HN users you'll see that "Belgian law makes it very difficult" is an euphemism for "it's possible, but costly", so she is basically admitting to break the law to reduce cost. How much this kind of approach to law is tolerated in Belgium, I don't know, so a future investigation is a pure speculation, I admit, but hey, am I not free to speculate about the future??? As far as 2) is concerned, I'm not witch-hunting here, calling for her head, or anything like that. I just think that the bad PR she's made will not make the company's board/owners/shareholders etc. happy. She just hasn't done any good with this blog post. I'm sure you agree with that, regardless of whether you agree with her views on employment law or not. So, yes, it's all speculations, and I'm sorry, but I don't feel guilty about it. Should I, really?
    - kordless 12y ago
      > I'm sure you agree with that, regardless of whether you agree with her views on employment law or not. My original point was don't speak for me or others by way of blaming statements. You have no right to state whether I agree with it or not.
- logfromblammo 12y ago
  3) She is immediately hired by an American company or multinational, with her disrepect for European labor protections as her most outstanding qualification. But she would have to learn to not talk directly to the people that she is firing. The best way to break up with an employee is by mass e-mail, text message, or simply by deactivating their access card and leaving the crap from their office in a box by the curb. (satire)
  - zentiggr 12y ago
    Been let go once by getting a call late at night on my personal cell, telling me to not try to go in in the morning, and my agency staff will pick up my personal items as soon as possible.... </reallife>
Zenst 12y ago
Indeed appears this self proclaimed CV/recruitment specilist has deleted the offending post highlighting how bad she is with regards to staff relations. Short version , she fired somebody so she could save money and then had a problem and was unable to get the extra mile suport out of hours and outside the contract hours from that employee she had fired. Then took to social media to wonder how could this happen and trying to blame everything upto and including the old employee for her clear and blatant greedy oversight.
- freehunter 12y ago
  I was able to access it just a moment ago. I don't think it's been deleted.
  - porker 12y ago
    If you can, can you save it with all comments from LinkedIn please? The Google webcache misses some comments, and they were the worthwhile bit of the post
    - thejosh 12y ago
      Sure, I screenshotted the entire page, but removed the sidebar and topbars.. and it was 13MB, is there anywhere to upload it that takes files that large? imgur.com wouldn't work.
      - Tobu 12y ago
        me.ga or mediafire would work.
      - porker 12y ago
        What did you use to take the screenshot, which handled that size? All my screenshot tools fail around the 5MB limit, which is a PITA when trying to screenshot long pages :( You could use Dropbox to share?
        12y ago
mcv 12y ago
If there wasn't really any work for him, why did she need him after hours? Why not simply call an employee that hadn't just been fired?
drieddust 12y ago
This one is a gem. I can be very flexible and friendly, but I always put the company|religion|family first and I value the [company|religion|family]'s well being over an individual employee|Human.
- collyw 12y ago
  Yes, she does sound like a nice person. Unfortunately when I worked for an investment bank, they seemed to encourage arsehole behaviour and promote it.

by bru 12y ago

piokuc 12y ago

I guess Inge Geerdens, author of the text, and LinkedIn "Influencer" (sic!) removed the page; LinkedIn users were quite harsh with their comments. The logical development, IMHO, would be that: 1) relevant Belgian authorities launch investigation into employees' treatment in her company. Apparently they are forced to work after hours and, unlawfully, not being appropriately paid for the overtime work. 2) Inge gets fired for bringing disgrace to the company she works for as a CEO.

jrochkind1 12y ago
Hmm, it's still accessible for me at the original url.
Zenst 12y ago
I read many comments and would not call them harsh, realistic yes. If anything rather constructive and tame to what could be worded as a reply to her post.
- porker 12y ago
  Agreed - and with a more reasonable tone than the HN comments :o)
- piokuc 12y ago
  I would say the comments (most of them) were "relatively harsh", because usually comments under LinkedIn "Influencers"' blogs are limited to "thank you!", "great!", congratulations, etc. I thought they were pretty honest and not too diplomatic.
mathattack 12y ago
Ummmm.... When you fire someone, they take it personally and look for a new job. You can't expect overtime passion from them. What a dingbat!
kordless 12y ago
Please try to tone down the amount of speculation and blame you are adding to the story. AFAIK, none of the things you are saying is actually true or have come to pass. Remember, the surest way to spot these types of comments is the lead-in with an ad hominem argument...
- ulisesrmzroche 12y ago
  Aww come on bro. Half the fun in these gossip threads is speculation anyway.
- piokuc 12y ago
  I don't see your point. It is clear to me that she admitted breaking Belgian employment law saying things like: "Belgian law makes it very difficult to put such a flexible schedule in a contract. So your best bet is to hire people who share your passion, willing to 'volunteer' on such occasions." Notice the 'volunteer' in quotes... When you put 'volunteer' in quotes it doesn't mean the same, it's just a cynical way of saying that she expects people to be happy working overtime for free. In other comments in this thread by Belgian HN users you'll see that "Belgian law makes it very difficult" is an euphemism for "it's possible, but costly", so she is basically admitting to break the law to reduce cost. How much this kind of approach to law is tolerated in Belgium, I don't know, so a future investigation is a pure speculation, I admit, but hey, am I not free to speculate about the future??? As far as 2) is concerned, I'm not witch-hunting here, calling for her head, or anything like that. I just think that the bad PR she's made will not make the company's board/owners/shareholders etc. happy. She just hasn't done any good with this blog post. I'm sure you agree with that, regardless of whether you agree with her views on employment law or not. So, yes, it's all speculations, and I'm sorry, but I don't feel guilty about it. Should I, really?
  - kordless 12y ago
    > I'm sure you agree with that, regardless of whether you agree with her views on employment law or not. My original point was don't speak for me or others by way of blaming statements. You have no right to state whether I agree with it or not.
logfromblammo 12y ago
3) She is immediately hired by an American company or multinational, with her disrepect for European labor protections as her most outstanding qualification. But she would have to learn to not talk directly to the people that she is firing. The best way to break up with an employee is by mass e-mail, text message, or simply by deactivating their access card and leaving the crap from their office in a box by the curb. (satire)
- zentiggr 12y ago
  Been let go once by getting a call late at night on my personal cell, telling me to not try to go in in the morning, and my agency staff will pick up my personal items as soon as possible.... </reallife>

Zenst 12y ago

Indeed appears this self proclaimed CV/recruitment specilist has deleted the offending post highlighting how bad she is with regards to staff relations. Short version , she fired somebody so she could save money and then had a problem and was unable to get the extra mile suport out of hours and outside the contract hours from that employee she had fired. Then took to social media to wonder how could this happen and trying to blame everything upto and including the old employee for her clear and blatant greedy oversight.

freehunter 12y ago
I was able to access it just a moment ago. I don't think it's been deleted.
- porker 12y ago
  If you can, can you save it with all comments from LinkedIn please? The Google webcache misses some comments, and they were the worthwhile bit of the post
  - thejosh 12y ago
    Sure, I screenshotted the entire page, but removed the sidebar and topbars.. and it was 13MB, is there anywhere to upload it that takes files that large? imgur.com wouldn't work.
    - Tobu 12y ago
      me.ga or mediafire would work.
    - porker 12y ago
      What did you use to take the screenshot, which handled that size? All my screenshot tools fail around the 5MB limit, which is a PITA when trying to screenshot long pages :( You could use Dropbox to share?
      - 12y ago

mcv 12y ago

If there wasn't really any work for him, why did she need him after hours? Why not simply call an employee that hadn't just been fired?

drieddust 12y ago

collyw 12y ago
Yes, she does sound like a nice person. Unfortunately when I worked for an investment bank, they seemed to encourage arsehole behaviour and promote it.