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Before making any conclusions about the role of Everest in this tradgedy, its worth looking at the very similar event on k2 in 2008. > https://en.wikipedia.org

by 001sky 13y ago

Before making any conclusions about the role of Everest in this tradgedy, its worth looking at the very similar event on k2 in 2008. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_K2_disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_K2_disaster This event had a similar death toll (11x), a similar pysical situation (ice sercac avalanche accross main summit route), and overall was in a place made people similarly nervous for many years.

rangibaby 13y ago
I found the book "Surviving K2" by Wilco Van Rooijen a good read about this. It's obvious that English is his second language, but if you can get past that then it is pretty captivating. He has quite a negative view of people who rely too much on porters / oxygen IIRC. http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-K2-Wilco-van-Rooijen-ebook/dp/B007TKATSM http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-K2-Wilco-van-Rooijen-ebook/d...
NAFV_P 13y ago
You reminded me of the "Black Summer" of 1986 on K2, but I'm trying to find a decent article on it. IIRC at least two dozen climbers were killed during the period. The story of Alison Hargreaves' life and death is especially chilling. She was blown off the peak by a hurricane force wind in 1995. Her body has never been found, but her fellow climbers mentioned seeing her jacket, harness and boots in the snow. This reminds me of a certain aspect of plane crash investigations. When a plane explodes at high altitude and the occupants are thrown out, the force exerted by the atmosphere due to falling can be sufficient to rip off clothes, so sometimes the victims bodies can be found on the ground naked. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/k2-the-final-hours-1597003.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/k2-the-final-hours-1597003...
T-zex 13y ago
I don't think these two events are similar. Most of the fatalities on K2 in 2008 where due to poor planning or preparation of the climbers themselves. While recent tragedy on Everest was simply an ice-fall and avalanche. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkC9IMQmYA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkC9IMQmYA is a very good video of Chris Warner talking to Google employees about leadership. He has climbed K2 in 2007 and gives his opinion on the events in 2008. Also The Summit [0] is a nice film about this tragedy. [0]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2363471/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2363471/
- ericcholis 13y ago
  I hate to speak ill of those that lost their lives, but they made very poor choices that directly resulted in their deaths. Poor coordination with other teams, leaving 3 hours later than intended, missing or forgetting gear, and dangerous decisions in very dangerous situations.

by 001sky 13y ago

rangibaby 13y ago

I found the book "Surviving K2" by Wilco Van Rooijen a good read about this. It's obvious that English is his second language, but if you can get past that then it is pretty captivating. He has quite a negative view of people who rely too much on porters / oxygen IIRC. http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-K2-Wilco-van-Rooijen-ebook/dp/B007TKATSM http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-K2-Wilco-van-Rooijen-ebook/d...

NAFV_P 13y ago

You reminded me of the "Black Summer" of 1986 on K2, but I'm trying to find a decent article on it. IIRC at least two dozen climbers were killed during the period. The story of Alison Hargreaves' life and death is especially chilling. She was blown off the peak by a hurricane force wind in 1995. Her body has never been found, but her fellow climbers mentioned seeing her jacket, harness and boots in the snow. This reminds me of a certain aspect of plane crash investigations. When a plane explodes at high altitude and the occupants are thrown out, the force exerted by the atmosphere due to falling can be sufficient to rip off clothes, so sometimes the victims bodies can be found on the ground naked. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/k2-the-final-hours-1597003.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/k2-the-final-hours-1597003...

T-zex 13y ago

I don't think these two events are similar. Most of the fatalities on K2 in 2008 where due to poor planning or preparation of the climbers themselves. While recent tragedy on Everest was simply an ice-fall and avalanche. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkC9IMQmYA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkC9IMQmYA is a very good video of Chris Warner talking to Google employees about leadership. He has climbed K2 in 2007 and gives his opinion on the events in 2008. Also The Summit [0] is a nice film about this tragedy. [0]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2363471/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2363471/

ericcholis 13y ago
I hate to speak ill of those that lost their lives, but they made very poor choices that directly resulted in their deaths. Poor coordination with other teams, leaving 3 hours later than intended, missing or forgetting gear, and dangerous decisions in very dangerous situations.