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I have enough faith in women to think that for every radical feminist who jumps ship because of this, two reasonable women will enter IT. Who knows, actual fem
by facepalm 13y ago
I have enough faith in women to think that for every radical feminist who jumps ship because of this, two reasonable women will enter IT.
Who knows, actual female developers might be put off by radical feminism using them for their agenda.
- pyronite 13y agoYour hypothesis is that two "reasonable women" will enter IT as a result of Julie Ann Horvath and another former employee feeling ostracized at GitHub?
- facepalm 13y agoI don't know what happened with JAH, but it seems obvious that the Ada initiative judges without having any inside information. That's the real issue. Besides, it seems possible that women who work at GitHub don't quit because JAH is gone, if some accounts are true (ie the Jane Doe on Medium article). But you are right, the JAH incident itself probably doesn't motivate anyone to join IT (neither men nor woman). Then again, perhaps eliminating drama from IT (by eliminating drama people) will in the long run entice those women to join.
- discodave 13y agoPlease define "radical feminism" and how it applies to this situation?
- facepalm 13y agoIn this case one obvious aspect is having the basic belief that "a woman complaining of abuse is always in the right".
- comrh 13y agoThe basic belief is "someone complaining of abuse" is always taken seriously. Further, this is concerning a person with a power disadvantage in their environment who is going to be subject to the array of classic silencing techniques that criticize not her argument but her person. Interestingly enough you're using one as well classifying the response as "radical feminism". This discredits their position because they were "too aggressive". It is another argument that adds nothing because it attacks their tone and not ideas.
- facepalm 13y agoWell what does the Ada initiative know about the case? GitHub claims they did an investigation, and they let people go. So on what basis does Ada initiative assume misconduct, apart from their ideology?
- comrh 13y agoIt is extremely common for companies and organizations to bail on relationships with people and other companies when there is even just the suggestion of a controversial issue. To act like this behavior is somehow exclusive to "radical feminists" or that it means they "always assume the female is 100% in the right" doesn't make any sense. Also this fits pretty well: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Innocent_until_proven_guilty http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Innocent_until_proven_gui...
- facepalm 13y agoSeriously? I'm sorry, but there is no alternative to innocent until proven guilty. It's not a silencing tactic, it is a basic necessity of making complex societies work. These women are dangerous fanatics.
- lawnchair_larry 13y agoThe Ada Initiative.
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