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Why you link your thinking with the sub-atoms? Why do you think that if the sub-atoms are deterministic your thinking can't decide?
by mamcx 13y ago
Why you link your thinking with the sub-atoms? Why do you think that if the sub-atoms are deterministic your thinking can't decide?
- cortesoft 13y agoBecause all of my thoughts are represented someway in the physical world. My thoughts are just neurons interacting. Now, if you are suggesting that my thoughts are somehow outside of the physical world... well, it still wouldn't work with a deterministic world. If the universe is 'deterministic', that means that given the current state of the universe, there is only a single path the universe can progress down. Every future state of the world is 'determined' by the current state. For example, the location of the water bottle on my desk could be 'determined' if we had perfect knowledge of the state of the universe. However, if I had free will, I could choose to move that water bottle to somewhere else. The universe is no longer deterministic.
- mamcx 13y agoI still don't see why hard link both. In a truly random universe, the location of the bottle is a nonsense answer (or more exactly: is random). You can ask that. The bootle could, suddenly, not be there, so you can't decide where move the bootle. The freedom of move the bottle is DEPENDENT of have a location for it, and have a certainty that a)Move exist, and the laws of it can be trusted b) Will move to the location you want to. So I think that a chaotic universe is more problematic for this problem that a ordered one. Also, I think is possible to have "static" laws but "dynamic" actions, specially because a each step, could exist a limited set of possible outcomes (ie: You can't move to anywhere in the universe the bootle) but the summation of each step provide a path where you are not totally tied, ie, each step is bounded, but the final outcome is random (or random enough) to still make free will the reality.