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> At TalentBin, I refined my own approach to strip mining networks for the best possible people. It comes down to three things: Yeah, so, I have my own persona

by pnathan 13y ago

> At TalentBin, I refined my own approach to strip mining networks for the best possible people. It comes down to three things: Yeah, so, I have my own personal EPA, and it's banned companies from strip mining my networks, period. No, no, and NO a third time. If you want me to recommend the company to everyone, you have to make this company freaking awesome on everyone's dimension. That's really not going to happen. Worse, unless it's a condition of hiring, I'm not going to want to sit down with you and let you chew through my social networks for recruiting leads. That's unethical (although I'm not sure quite off how to quantify that).

vonmoltke 13y ago
> Worsee, unless it's a condition of hiring, I'm not going to want to sit down with you and let you chew through my social networks for recruiting leads. That's unethical (although I'm not sure quite off how to quantify that). Who would you be more amenable to it, or the action be more ethical, simply because its a condition of hiring?
- pnathan 13y ago
  Basically, a condition of hiring means that I know going in what's going to be asked of me. If I'm not comfortable sharing my network, I can back out. If it's sprung on me after I'm hired, it puts me in a really bad position.
mathattack 13y ago
I agree that forcing people to open social networks in front of someone from HR (yes, recruiting is part of HR) is very creepy. Is it anyone's business who you are friends with? Opening up someone's facebook opens up so many cans of worms. The only way this can be done is via opting in. "Email X to open up your social networks, and get a $200 gift certificate to Amazon. If it leads to a hire, get $2000 cash for a non-engineering hire, and $5000-10000 for an engineering hire based on seniority."
- Terr_ 13y ago
  > Opening up someone's facebook opens up so many cans of worms. "Well, if it's really a precondition to employment, I suppose I could give you access to a site which clearly displays my exact age, ethnicity, and sexual orientation. That is, if your HR department says they really need the information in order to make a decision." "Uh, y'know, never mind..."
  - pnathan 13y ago
    Hahaha, yeah, the legal angle is.... interesting. I'd love to see a lawyer's analysis of how many minefields this idea introduces.
    - danielweber 13y ago
      It's rather easy to work around from the start if the company is really concerned about it.
  - walshemj 13y ago
    Would employers have to provide indemnity insurance for any misuse of your personal network? It would really suck to be called as a witness in a employment law case and have the opposition barrister rip your personal and professional competence to shreds for facilitating race , sex discrimination. And yes that is what happens I know someone who used to be an organisations GC Yes would realy suck to be called as a whitness in a employment law case and have the oposition barister rip your presfional comptentance to shreds for facilitating race , sex descrimination.
- JoeAltmaier 13y ago
  So, selling out your friends Explicitely? I guess the Devil makes you sign for your soul, why not your employer.

by pnathan 13y ago

vonmoltke 13y ago

> Worsee, unless it's a condition of hiring, I'm not going to want to sit down with you and let you chew through my social networks for recruiting leads. That's unethical (although I'm not sure quite off how to quantify that). Who would you be more amenable to it, or the action be more ethical, simply because its a condition of hiring?

pnathan 13y ago
Basically, a condition of hiring means that I know going in what's going to be asked of me. If I'm not comfortable sharing my network, I can back out. If it's sprung on me after I'm hired, it puts me in a really bad position.

mathattack 13y ago

I agree that forcing people to open social networks in front of someone from HR (yes, recruiting is part of HR) is very creepy. Is it anyone's business who you are friends with? Opening up someone's facebook opens up so many cans of worms. The only way this can be done is via opting in. "Email X to open up your social networks, and get a $200 gift certificate to Amazon. If it leads to a hire, get $2000 cash for a non-engineering hire, and $5000-10000 for an engineering hire based on seniority."

Terr_ 13y ago
> Opening up someone's facebook opens up so many cans of worms. "Well, if it's really a precondition to employment, I suppose I could give you access to a site which clearly displays my exact age, ethnicity, and sexual orientation. That is, if your HR department says they really need the information in order to make a decision." "Uh, y'know, never mind..."
- pnathan 13y ago
  Hahaha, yeah, the legal angle is.... interesting. I'd love to see a lawyer's analysis of how many minefields this idea introduces.
  - danielweber 13y ago
    It's rather easy to work around from the start if the company is really concerned about it.
- walshemj 13y ago
  Would employers have to provide indemnity insurance for any misuse of your personal network? It would really suck to be called as a witness in a employment law case and have the opposition barrister rip your personal and professional competence to shreds for facilitating race , sex discrimination. And yes that is what happens I know someone who used to be an organisations GC Yes would realy suck to be called as a whitness in a employment law case and have the oposition barister rip your presfional comptentance to shreds for facilitating race , sex descrimination.
JoeAltmaier 13y ago
So, selling out your friends Explicitely? I guess the Devil makes you sign for your soul, why not your employer.