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> They need the facts to help decide if they want to keep using GitHub going forward, or if they even want to adopt it in the first place. Bullshit again. How?

> They need the facts to help decide if they want to keep using GitHub going forward, or if they even want to adopt it in the first place. Bullshit again. How? This is not an OkCupid/Mozilla (against browser but not against programming language). It's needlessly poking your nose until it bleeds. For a customer paying $200/mo, how would knowing the fine print help their decision making? Assuming the details are appalling and sick, Would you stop using jQuery because they wouldn't move from GitHub? Other open source projects on GitHub too? Would you switch services because the organization decided to stick with GitHub after all? If you would use services and projects on Github no matter what, what's the point in asking for these details?

SolarNet 13y ago
Because jQuery, as a public project, is not supporting github financially. For a company paying thousands of dollars to github, trusting them with potential trade secrets, they would care about the stability of github's employees, the way github treats different kinds of people [1], the ability of github's HR department to keep their employees happy, etc. Them failing those criteria would mean that they are exposing me to risks with regard to HR, the security of my code, and now PR risks. At which point, why would I pay them? [1] If my company, paying github, is half women, do I have to worry about the fact that half of my employees might be discriminated against if they talk to github? If a female executive of my company talks to them, will she be harassed?
- judk 13y ago
  Name the largest business you work with that has not had any internal legal disputes that were settled privately.
- yawboakye 13y ago
  Since their establishment they've dealt with the situations similar to/exactly the same as what you're concerned about. That history is there for our benefits. Granted, what happened with Horvath was admittedly a mistake. Here's what we could do: We could hang on to that and question their integrity and everything that they've done right during their existence but that would be us being overzealous and giving more attention to the wrong thing. They're dedicated to fixing this shit themselves, let's not make it harder by asking for more detail than what we already know. I can assure you that it's worthless data for making any decision about whether or not to use GitHub.

SolarNet 13y ago

Because jQuery, as a public project, is not supporting github financially. For a company paying thousands of dollars to github, trusting them with potential trade secrets, they would care about the stability of github's employees, the way github treats different kinds of people [1], the ability of github's HR department to keep their employees happy, etc. Them failing those criteria would mean that they are exposing me to risks with regard to HR, the security of my code, and now PR risks. At which point, why would I pay them? [1] If my company, paying github, is half women, do I have to worry about the fact that half of my employees might be discriminated against if they talk to github? If a female executive of my company talks to them, will she be harassed?

judk 13y ago
Name the largest business you work with that has not had any internal legal disputes that were settled privately.
yawboakye 13y ago
Since their establishment they've dealt with the situations similar to/exactly the same as what you're concerned about. That history is there for our benefits. Granted, what happened with Horvath was admittedly a mistake. Here's what we could do: We could hang on to that and question their integrity and everything that they've done right during their existence but that would be us being overzealous and giving more attention to the wrong thing. They're dedicated to fixing this shit themselves, let's not make it harder by asking for more detail than what we already know. I can assure you that it's worthless data for making any decision about whether or not to use GitHub.