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I don't know the current status of the bathroom server, but when I was living in Random, certain bathrooms would be taken offline on Jewish days of rest (since

I don't know the current status of the bathroom server, but when I was living in Random, certain bathrooms would be taken offline on Jewish days of rest (since activating the door switch could be considered prohibited work). So it's possible that the server is offline today for Passover.

coldpie 13y ago
> activating the door switch could be considered prohibited work Unless the operators meant it as a joke, this is absolutely ludicrous.
- colanderman 13y ago
  IANJ, but electronic switch = spark = fire = work, as I understand it. This is pretty common (along with removing light bulbs from refrigerators, which to me makes no sense unless you also disable the temperature sensor).
  - robryk 13y ago
    Does it also apply to solid state switches actuated by a capacitative touch sensor? I wonder why this or something of a similar nature isn't a solution to most of these issues.
    - devcpp 13y ago
      Well, the decision to make electricity forbidden was a mix of building (by closing a circuit, not relevant to 100% capacitive systems), spark (ditto), heating and adding power consumption. There is some debate as to whether those last two still always apply to 100% capacitive devices (as this is important to Israeli soldiers and hospital workers). But ultimately, most Rabbis know that these reasons have mainly been brought up to avoid making those "holy days" look like other days by allowing the use of computers, microwaves and so on, so it's not just going to go. Every practicing Jew has thought about it. Many hope our Rabbis change their mind one day, seeing how hard life without electricity has/will become and how plausible solutions may exist.
- CanSpice 13y ago
  Not a joke. Some appliances have what's known as "Sabbath mode", because of the Jewish restriction on doing work on the Sabbath. From Wikipedia: "When an oven is in Shabbat mode, the standard six- or twelve-hour automatic shutoff is overridden, and all lights and displays (for example, a light that might go on when the door is opened) are disabled." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode
- jmharvey 13y ago
  No, it wasn't meant as a joke. Exactly what activities are prohibited on days of rest is a matter of some debate [1], but the general attitude of the dorm tended to be that the bathroom server really wasn't that big a deal, so if anyone had a strong objection to it, then taking it offline (or disconnecting particular bathrooms) wasn't a problem. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabbat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabba...
taejo 13y ago
Work during Passover is not prohibited, though.
- jmharvey 12y ago
  My understanding is that work is prohibited on the seventh day of Passover.
rdl 13y ago
It's also why East Campus had keys (which were great for giving non-residents) instead of the card entry system used on every other building (with keys not being distributed). (41W)

coldpie 13y ago

> activating the door switch could be considered prohibited work Unless the operators meant it as a joke, this is absolutely ludicrous.

colanderman 13y ago
IANJ, but electronic switch = spark = fire = work, as I understand it. This is pretty common (along with removing light bulbs from refrigerators, which to me makes no sense unless you also disable the temperature sensor).
- robryk 13y ago
  Does it also apply to solid state switches actuated by a capacitative touch sensor? I wonder why this or something of a similar nature isn't a solution to most of these issues.
  - devcpp 13y ago
    Well, the decision to make electricity forbidden was a mix of building (by closing a circuit, not relevant to 100% capacitive systems), spark (ditto), heating and adding power consumption. There is some debate as to whether those last two still always apply to 100% capacitive devices (as this is important to Israeli soldiers and hospital workers). But ultimately, most Rabbis know that these reasons have mainly been brought up to avoid making those "holy days" look like other days by allowing the use of computers, microwaves and so on, so it's not just going to go. Every practicing Jew has thought about it. Many hope our Rabbis change their mind one day, seeing how hard life without electricity has/will become and how plausible solutions may exist.
CanSpice 13y ago
Not a joke. Some appliances have what's known as "Sabbath mode", because of the Jewish restriction on doing work on the Sabbath. From Wikipedia: "When an oven is in Shabbat mode, the standard six- or twelve-hour automatic shutoff is overridden, and all lights and displays (for example, a light that might go on when the door is opened) are disabled." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode
jmharvey 13y ago
No, it wasn't meant as a joke. Exactly what activities are prohibited on days of rest is a matter of some debate [1], but the general attitude of the dorm tended to be that the bathroom server really wasn't that big a deal, so if anyone had a strong objection to it, then taking it offline (or disconnecting particular bathrooms) wasn't a problem. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabbat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabba...

taejo 13y ago

Work during Passover is not prohibited, though.

jmharvey 12y ago
My understanding is that work is prohibited on the seventh day of Passover.

rdl 13y ago

It's also why East Campus had keys (which were great for giving non-residents) instead of the card entry system used on every other building (with keys not being distributed). (41W)