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It's actually like I were asked for my number to get a service and then the company started calling me twice a day to offer me things I don't even want or care

by kaoD 13y ago

It's actually like I were asked for my number to get a service and then the company started calling me twice a day to offer me things I don't even want or care for because it falls within their carefully-worderd-ToS. Do I agree to get emails sent to me from <random company> as long as they're product-related and I'm using their service? Yes I do. Will I mark these as spam? No I won't. Do I agree to getting promotional emails or reminder emails when I stopped using their service months ago? No I don't. Will I mark these as spam? Yes I will.

logicallee 13y ago
But do you even try clicking unsubscribe? What you're describing is just so different from real spam.
- kaoD 13y ago
  > What you're describing is just so different from real spam. Not at all, check this other post of mine on why I think it's still spam: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7621722 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7621722
  - logicallee 13y ago
    The reply to that post states pretty clearly why you're wrong. I'm curious though - after you give out your email address, which you don't consider "soliciting" in this sense but I do, how do you imagine "soliciting" any specific communication? Nothing can possibly be 'solicited' under your definition. I just don't get why you even give out an email address, if anything you get thereafter is still considered unsolicited.
    - kaoD 13y ago
      > The reply to that post states pretty clearly why you're wrong. And then states pretty clearly why I'm not in his "EDIT" which you chose to ignore.
    - __david__ 13y ago
      > I just don't get why you even give out an email address Because you pretty much have to buy anything online nowadays. My personal solution is to use the '+' trick to give customized emails out to everyone and then to block them at the SMTP level in my /etc/mail/access file if they don't stop sending mails after the 1st unsubscribe attempt.

by kaoD 13y ago

logicallee 13y ago

But do you even try clicking unsubscribe? What you're describing is just so different from real spam.

kaoD 13y ago
> What you're describing is just so different from real spam. Not at all, check this other post of mine on why I think it's still spam: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7621722 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7621722
- logicallee 13y ago
  The reply to that post states pretty clearly why you're wrong. I'm curious though - after you give out your email address, which you don't consider "soliciting" in this sense but I do, how do you imagine "soliciting" any specific communication? Nothing can possibly be 'solicited' under your definition. I just don't get why you even give out an email address, if anything you get thereafter is still considered unsolicited.
  - kaoD 13y ago
    > The reply to that post states pretty clearly why you're wrong. And then states pretty clearly why I'm not in his "EDIT" which you chose to ignore.
  - __david__ 13y ago
    > I just don't get why you even give out an email address Because you pretty much have to buy anything online nowadays. My personal solution is to use the '+' trick to give customized emails out to everyone and then to block them at the SMTP level in my /etc/mail/access file if they don't stop sending mails after the 1st unsubscribe attempt.