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I don't want people spending their money as they see fit, see I'm not a politician so I can say this. This why I don't see libertarianism (or even conservatism

I don't want people spending their money as they see fit, see I'm not a politician so I can say this. This why I don't see libertarianism (or even conservatism) working in general. There are vast swathes of americans who given more money would spend it irresponsibly - and what do you do then when someone spends their limited income on new truck nuts instead of health insurance?

solutionyogi 17y ago
Great. Please allow me to control your bank account so that I can dictate how much you spend on your car, on your health insurance, on your vacation, on your wedding, on your kids, on your personal growth, on your food... each and everything which affects you. Are you okie? I hear a 'no'. Then why do you think you want government to control how others spend their money? Do you really think someone else knows better than you what to do you with your own hard earned money? And why do you think libertarianism doesn't work? America is a living proof that libertarianism/capitalism works. Another example: I am an Indian and when I was a kid, I remember how poor our country was. Since India decided to open up the trade in 1991 and adopted some of the libertarian policies, it has flourished. I don't know how old are you but did you hear about India as a vibrant economy 25 years back? So please don't suggest that libertarianism doesn't' work because I have seen it with my own eyes how well it works.
- mikeryan 17y ago
  "Do you really think someone else knows better than you what to do you with your own hard earned money?" You're not answering my question. I trust myself, heck you seem smart enough, I even trust you. I don't trust large sections of my country and you don't have a solution for dealing with the people who decide to spend their money irrationally. You can not call America a libertarian country and wave it like an example. Its far from it and thankfully so. The most economic success this country has seen in the last 25 years was the eight were it was run by democratic leader (you know the tax more spend more people). Likewise India's success in the last 25 years is great, but its a bit hard to show that as an example when it houses 1/3 of the worlds poor and 42% live beneath the international poverty line. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India
  - solutionyogi 17y ago
    India became independent from British rule in 1947. It opened up economy in 1991. India has progressed more in last 18 years (from 1991 to 2009) than it did in 44 years (1947 to 1991). You can confirm this with any Indian who is more than 30 years old. [Compared this to US which has been independent since 1788, more than 200 years] I hope you would agree that poverty can not be eliminated overnight. I am thrilled that India is making progress and I can assure that over the next 50 years, India will also join the rank of developed nations if they continue to adopt libertarian policies. Anyway, coming back to your argument that you don't think others are smart enough to know how to spend their money. Just because percentage of the population is not smart enough, do you think I should suffer (by paying higher taxes) because of that? Also, let's for a moment say that government should decide my health care. What's next? They will tell me what to eat as well. Where do you draw the line?
    - mikeryan 17y ago
      Hmm... from 1991 to 2009 we've had 2 web bubbles. Maybe that had something to do with it? But you're still ignoring the core issue.
      - solutionyogi 17y ago
        What those two bubbles have to do with India's progress? Also, I am not ignoring core issue. Your solution is that someone in Washington DC should decide how to spend money and solve problems for people living in a country as big as America and I am suggesting that we treat people like adult and let them take care of themselves and minimize the role of government in our lives.
        mikeryan 17y ago
        And when they don't take care of themselves? And really? you see no correlation between the internet bubbles and India's recent economic growth?
    - BrentRitterbeck 17y ago

solutionyogi 17y ago

Great. Please allow me to control your bank account so that I can dictate how much you spend on your car, on your health insurance, on your vacation, on your wedding, on your kids, on your personal growth, on your food... each and everything which affects you. Are you okie? I hear a 'no'. Then why do you think you want government to control how others spend their money? Do you really think someone else knows better than you what to do you with your own hard earned money? And why do you think libertarianism doesn't work? America is a living proof that libertarianism/capitalism works. Another example: I am an Indian and when I was a kid, I remember how poor our country was. Since India decided to open up the trade in 1991 and adopted some of the libertarian policies, it has flourished. I don't know how old are you but did you hear about India as a vibrant economy 25 years back? So please don't suggest that libertarianism doesn't' work because I have seen it with my own eyes how well it works.

mikeryan 17y ago
"Do you really think someone else knows better than you what to do you with your own hard earned money?" You're not answering my question. I trust myself, heck you seem smart enough, I even trust you. I don't trust large sections of my country and you don't have a solution for dealing with the people who decide to spend their money irrationally. You can not call America a libertarian country and wave it like an example. Its far from it and thankfully so. The most economic success this country has seen in the last 25 years was the eight were it was run by democratic leader (you know the tax more spend more people). Likewise India's success in the last 25 years is great, but its a bit hard to show that as an example when it houses 1/3 of the worlds poor and 42% live beneath the international poverty line. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India
- solutionyogi 17y ago
  India became independent from British rule in 1947. It opened up economy in 1991. India has progressed more in last 18 years (from 1991 to 2009) than it did in 44 years (1947 to 1991). You can confirm this with any Indian who is more than 30 years old. [Compared this to US which has been independent since 1788, more than 200 years] I hope you would agree that poverty can not be eliminated overnight. I am thrilled that India is making progress and I can assure that over the next 50 years, India will also join the rank of developed nations if they continue to adopt libertarian policies. Anyway, coming back to your argument that you don't think others are smart enough to know how to spend their money. Just because percentage of the population is not smart enough, do you think I should suffer (by paying higher taxes) because of that? Also, let's for a moment say that government should decide my health care. What's next? They will tell me what to eat as well. Where do you draw the line?
  - mikeryan 17y ago
    Hmm... from 1991 to 2009 we've had 2 web bubbles. Maybe that had something to do with it? But you're still ignoring the core issue.
    - solutionyogi 17y ago
      What those two bubbles have to do with India's progress? Also, I am not ignoring core issue. Your solution is that someone in Washington DC should decide how to spend money and solve problems for people living in a country as big as America and I am suggesting that we treat people like adult and let them take care of themselves and minimize the role of government in our lives.
      - mikeryan 17y ago
        And when they don't take care of themselves? And really? you see no correlation between the internet bubbles and India's recent economic growth?
  - BrentRitterbeck 17y ago