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Twitter blocks two accounts on its Turkish network
- aerodog 13y agoHaramzadeler does not mean "sons of thieves". It means "sons of bitches." AFP, so prudish.
- fsniper 13y agoNo actually it means, "The Sinner Family". "Haram" being sin, as in anything denied to humans by the God.
- diorray 13y agoIt actually means "The Sinner Family". You're AK it, dont you?
- diorray 13y agoIt actually means "Sons of Sinners". "Haram" means sin and "zade" is the "mac-" prefix You're AK it, dont you?
- kmfrk 13y agoI was wondering what the hell their recent tweets referred to: https://twitter.com/policy https://twitter.com/policy.
- fsniper 13y agoAnd now thank you Twitter. We have just lost our information stream. Our "legal goverment" is so corrupt that nobody cares legal documents, do not process prosecutions but you idiots bow to Turkish government. Again thank you. Because I respect the HN community I won't swear here. But feel what I am denying myself to say.
- archivator 13y agoIt's either that or Twitter will be completely blocked in Turkey. They're playing a tough game but at least it's a game that the Turkish public can play too, as long as you're faster than the censors. The alternative is for the government to take down the entire game field.
- fsniper 13y agoThey have blocked twitter before, Youtube is even blocked right now. But knowing twitter is starting to bow Turkish government’s requests is not assuring anyone. It's blocking accounts right now. But what may come afterwards is really worrisome. Also Starting with Turkish government will mean other governments will start the same tactics against Twitter. So any non-Turkish citizen should fear about what is about to come.
- afsina 13y agoOr, they just did the expected. Those accounts were unlawful and there were court orders against them. You or I may disagree with it does not matter.
- stfu 13y agoThe question is at what point a service has to accept local laws. Like when a country bans "sexual images" or certain pictures of "prophets" or criticism of its political leaders, does Twitter, or for that matter any other service - esp. Google, has to bow to that law.
- Karunamon 13y agoI'd imagine at the point that the options become "comply with the law" or "deny access to that locality".
- fsniper 13y agoLike any whistle-blowing.It's illegal so no one should whistle-blow and any corruption should stay hidden.
- sukruh 13y ago>Twitter's global policy team said it withholds content only "after due process", such as after having received a court order, and in a tweet said it would not do so "at the mere request of a gov't official". This is disappointing. Legal standards on free speech are hopelessly inadequate in Turkey, as can be seen from the existence of court orders banning the whole of Youtube. If Twitter obeys whenever a Turkish court orders removal of content or banning of accounts, it will be assisting in censorship - plain and simple. As for the specific cases of the two accounts that were withheld: The real content of the leaks are on Youtube, and these two accounts were used to 'announce' the leaks to the public, presumably by the leakers themselves. These accounts were retweeted by tens of thousands of people, so if the contents of these two accounts' tweets were illegal, so were those retweets. Will they ban the retweeters too? I don't think so, and this means Twitter's actions will contradict with each other. The leaks were important in showing the corruption at the top of the government and should not be censored, whatever Turkish courts decide. Tax avoidance, invasion of personal privacy, etc. all seem to be excuses by the government, created to lull their supporters.
- ilyanep 13y agoWhy accept orders from Turkey and not e.g. Egypt, Iran, etc.?
- mrtksn 13y agoThis was the argument of the Turkish government all the time. Why accept requests from Germany, France, UK, USA but not Turkey?
- fsniper 13y agoAlso their argument is Twitter does not pay Turkey taxes? I, International community, Twitter, Turkish Government (or it equals Tayyip Erdoğan) all know what is at stake. It's never about the law or the taxes. It's just about shutting down whistle-blowers or political rivals.
- xvilka 13y agoJust get rid of Twitter and try Twister instead.
- yawz 13y agoVery very disappointing.