Yes, cat-v. I've wasted plenty of time on there, as well as other werc sites. As a previous poster pointed out, these guys are hardcore Unix elitists and so th

Yes, cat-v. I've wasted plenty of time on there, as well as other werc sites. As a previous poster pointed out, these guys are hardcore Unix elitists and so their perspectives on software are written from a standpoint of an ardent follower of the Unix philosophy, and one who values minimalism and simplicity over all. The real form of simplicity, not the one of dumbing things down. It's just a totally different world from your average HN user, or even Bay Area "techie", for that matter. Their IRC channel is also pretty amusing to lurk around, though of not much use unless you're involved with 9front to one degree or another.