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Never been to NYC, but I think it's super easy to live and move in San Francisco without a car. Publics (MUNI, BART) are good, Caltrain takes you to south and w

by Hamatti 12y ago

Never been to NYC, but I think it's super easy to live and move in San Francisco without a car. Publics (MUNI, BART) are good, Caltrain takes you to south and when in areas inside the city where you can't get bus/bart, Uber and Lyft etc. are easy to use. Not to mention that this is quite small city so even walking is not too big of a problem.

x0x0 12y ago
> MUNI is good gonna leave that right there as testament to your credibility
- Hamatti 12y ago
  I really don't understand the MUNI hate people here seem to have. MUNI covers most of the city, goes frequently and is inexpensive. I use buses everyday to commute and to get around the city and find them surprisingly good.
  - x0x0 12y ago
    the smell of fresh-squeezed piss first thing in the morning the slowness (glacial) [1] [2] the expense (very high, in part because of the speed) [2] [3] the poor service intervals the homeless, crazy, and aggro allowed to run all over the bus while the drivers watch the difficulty getting between many parts of the city; it was often faster for me to walk from haight to castro than ride the bus the multiple busses on different lines that come down the same street together in order to maximize time between buses the joke of a "schedule" that muni doesn't even pretend to keep to the man on muni picking body lice off and flicking them at people the homeless woman on muni with her pants down masturbating [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/30/us/san-francisco-buses-are-slow-but-just-try-eliminating-a-stop.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/30/us/san-francisco-buses-are... [2] http://www.sfweekly.com/2010-04-14/news/the-muni-death-spiral/ http://www.sfweekly.com/2010-04-14/news/the-muni-death-spira... [3] http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/driver-salaries-fueling-deficit/Content?oid=2135249 http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/driver-salaries-fueli...
  - 100k 12y ago
    Slow, dirty, delays/missing busses, infrequent service where I live, did I mention slow? I ride my bike as my primary way of getting around. It's way faster than taking the bus (MUNI average speed is something like 8 mph) and I can leave work after 7:30pm (the time of the last convenient bus).
Ologn 12y ago
> Never been to NYC...Caltrain takes you to south I live in New York City. On a weekday, the last Caltrain train out of San Francisco leaves around midnight. The next one does not leave until 5 AM. In NYC you have several trains going out in that time period, whether you're going to Long Island, New Jersey, Westchester or Connecticut.

by Hamatti 12y ago

x0x0 12y ago

> MUNI is good gonna leave that right there as testament to your credibility

Hamatti 12y ago
I really don't understand the MUNI hate people here seem to have. MUNI covers most of the city, goes frequently and is inexpensive. I use buses everyday to commute and to get around the city and find them surprisingly good.
- x0x0 12y ago
  the smell of fresh-squeezed piss first thing in the morning the slowness (glacial) [1] [2] the expense (very high, in part because of the speed) [2] [3] the poor service intervals the homeless, crazy, and aggro allowed to run all over the bus while the drivers watch the difficulty getting between many parts of the city; it was often faster for me to walk from haight to castro than ride the bus the multiple busses on different lines that come down the same street together in order to maximize time between buses the joke of a "schedule" that muni doesn't even pretend to keep to the man on muni picking body lice off and flicking them at people the homeless woman on muni with her pants down masturbating [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/30/us/san-francisco-buses-are-slow-but-just-try-eliminating-a-stop.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/30/us/san-francisco-buses-are... [2] http://www.sfweekly.com/2010-04-14/news/the-muni-death-spiral/ http://www.sfweekly.com/2010-04-14/news/the-muni-death-spira... [3] http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/driver-salaries-fueling-deficit/Content?oid=2135249 http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/driver-salaries-fueli...
- 100k 12y ago
  Slow, dirty, delays/missing busses, infrequent service where I live, did I mention slow? I ride my bike as my primary way of getting around. It's way faster than taking the bus (MUNI average speed is something like 8 mph) and I can leave work after 7:30pm (the time of the last convenient bus).

Ologn 12y ago

> Never been to NYC...Caltrain takes you to south I live in New York City. On a weekday, the last Caltrain train out of San Francisco leaves around midnight. The next one does not leave until 5 AM. In NYC you have several trains going out in that time period, whether you're going to Long Island, New Jersey, Westchester or Connecticut.