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> OTOH the lowest ($20) tier on Linode is probably used by more serious projects that, on average, exert considerable load. I'm not sure about that. For me, I

by gtaylor 13y ago

> OTOH the lowest ($20) tier on Linode is probably used by more serious projects that, on average, exert considerable load. I'm not sure about that. For me, I pay the extra few bucks on Linode for the customer service, stability, and the consistent performance. I'm not running my VMs ragged, I'm just willing to pay a little more for a higher quality service. Anecdotally, it's a quality thing for me. Digital Ocean = Economy car, Linode = A nice Hyundai sedan or a higher end Accord.

threeseed 13y ago
Your anecdotes (just like everyones) are meaningless. If you some evidence that DO is inferior at the same price level as Linode then you should post it. I was with Linode and had to deal with constant outages (at Fremont DC) and went through two major hacking incidents where I found out through Reddit instead of from them. I've never been with a worse provider than Linode.
- waps 13y ago
  All these anecdotes make one wonder why these people aren't simply going to hetzner and ovh and simply get a dedicated server for just slightly more (meaning $25/month).
  - neverminder 13y ago
    Or you can go with http://kimsufi.com http://kimsufi.com and get a 2GB RAM dedicated server for $13 a month.
    - latch 13y ago
      kimsufi is just OVH's budget brand (not that there's anything wrong with that, but your parent already mentioned OVH, so I thought some people might not know that they aren't really distinct)
    - superuser2 13y ago
      Not if you're an American. Kimsufi servers, last I checked, are sold to EU residents only.
      - emocakes 13y ago
        incorrect, I have had kimsufi servers before and I'm not an EU resident
        dylz 13y ago
        For a while last year (at least several months), they only permitted kimsufi sale for EU and blocked PayPal payments from the US. You could only buy the 100$+ machines from OVH, not Kimsufis
  - anu_gupta 13y ago
    Well for me, it's because although they're cheap and dedicated, servers, they aren't particularly good machines and the support is pretty much what you'd expect at that price (very basic). That being said, I do think they're great value, and I have a reverse bidding dedicated server from Hetzner, that I use as a test and staging server. But I wouldn't dream of using them for production instances though - for the amount you'd have to pay to beef up support and get access to things like out of band console access, you might as well pay for a server from Bytemark.
    - waps 13y ago
      Why not use this as an opportunity to make your server redundant ? If you don't have the time drbd + front-end load-balancers (e.g. on ec2, but just sending 403's, nothing else) , for example. Really interesting to setup, and there are plenty of cases where good support can't really help you either.
  - superuser2 13y ago
    Because we're not all EU citizens? OVH's pricing for Americans starts at $50/mo.
- gtaylor 13y ago
  Without anecdotes, HN would be mostly devoid of content. Let's not be silly. > If you some evidence that DO is inferior at the same price level as Linode then you should post it. I don't care to do this, I'm not out to prove anything. I'm here to share my experiences. Take them or leave them, I don't care either way. If you are using DO and you like it, then stick with it. I've personally been happy with DO (for the price), but feel like you get what you pay for in this regard. Sometimes over-provisioned host machines, erratic network and disk IO, frequent maintenance windows, slow and hurried customer service.

by gtaylor 13y ago

threeseed 13y ago

Your anecdotes (just like everyones) are meaningless. If you some evidence that DO is inferior at the same price level as Linode then you should post it. I was with Linode and had to deal with constant outages (at Fremont DC) and went through two major hacking incidents where I found out through Reddit instead of from them. I've never been with a worse provider than Linode.

waps 13y ago
All these anecdotes make one wonder why these people aren't simply going to hetzner and ovh and simply get a dedicated server for just slightly more (meaning $25/month).
- neverminder 13y ago
  Or you can go with http://kimsufi.com http://kimsufi.com and get a 2GB RAM dedicated server for $13 a month.
  - latch 13y ago
    kimsufi is just OVH's budget brand (not that there's anything wrong with that, but your parent already mentioned OVH, so I thought some people might not know that they aren't really distinct)
  - superuser2 13y ago
    Not if you're an American. Kimsufi servers, last I checked, are sold to EU residents only.
    - emocakes 13y ago
      incorrect, I have had kimsufi servers before and I'm not an EU resident
      - dylz 13y ago
        For a while last year (at least several months), they only permitted kimsufi sale for EU and blocked PayPal payments from the US. You could only buy the 100$+ machines from OVH, not Kimsufis
- anu_gupta 13y ago
  Well for me, it's because although they're cheap and dedicated, servers, they aren't particularly good machines and the support is pretty much what you'd expect at that price (very basic). That being said, I do think they're great value, and I have a reverse bidding dedicated server from Hetzner, that I use as a test and staging server. But I wouldn't dream of using them for production instances though - for the amount you'd have to pay to beef up support and get access to things like out of band console access, you might as well pay for a server from Bytemark.
  - waps 13y ago
    Why not use this as an opportunity to make your server redundant ? If you don't have the time drbd + front-end load-balancers (e.g. on ec2, but just sending 403's, nothing else) , for example. Really interesting to setup, and there are plenty of cases where good support can't really help you either.
- superuser2 13y ago
  Because we're not all EU citizens? OVH's pricing for Americans starts at $50/mo.
gtaylor 13y ago
Without anecdotes, HN would be mostly devoid of content. Let's not be silly. > If you some evidence that DO is inferior at the same price level as Linode then you should post it. I don't care to do this, I'm not out to prove anything. I'm here to share my experiences. Take them or leave them, I don't care either way. If you are using DO and you like it, then stick with it. I've personally been happy with DO (for the price), but feel like you get what you pay for in this regard. Sometimes over-provisioned host machines, erratic network and disk IO, frequent maintenance windows, slow and hurried customer service.