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What if you want to have several tiny boxes? For example, if you want to host a mail server as a separate box for security, that's another $20/month. Or what if
by kylec 13y ago
What if you want to have several tiny boxes? For example, if you want to host a mail server as a separate box for security, that's another $20/month. Or what if you need to use a different Linux distro for something? Another $20/month. A few examples like that add up fast.
- mwcampbell 13y agoContainers, e.g. through Docker, are good for that kind of thing.
- Karunamon 13y agoNot with the tiny amounts of memory offered at that price. 2GB is very easy to burn through in short order. Anything less than 8 feels really claustrophobic. I've always needed memory more than disk. Really wish I could pay some of these providers just for a one off increase of a few extra gigs of memory without tiering up which includes an entirely higher level of storage that I will not ever use.
- jeffasinger 13y agoSome types of sites need disk more than RAM, and that market is really weird right now too. I run a service that could get away with only 8GB of RAM, but definitely needs at least 2TB of space, plus plenty of room to grow.
- dragontamer 13y agoWhen numbers start getting up into that territory, I tend to look at the discount dedicated servers. WholeSaleInternet for example, currently has a Quad-Core Xeon E3 1230 for sale at $49/month with 5 IP Addresses. 1GBPS connection with 10TB bandwidth with 8GB of RAM / 250GB of Hard Drive. If that 2TB Hard Drive is really needed, you can compromise on the CPU and go for a consumer-grade AMD Fx-4100 (Quad-Core AMD) from Datashack for $55 / month, with 5 IP Addresses, 8GB RAM / 2TB of Hard Drive space, 10TB of Bandwidth on 1Gbps Most web applications seem to be Disk heavy or RAM Heavy... I rarely see CPU-heavy applications. So the AMD Fx-4100 can be good enough (its far far better than an Atom, although it isn't as good as a modern E3 Xeon). I've never had the need for it, but since Dedicated Servers often come with 5 or 13 IP Addresses, and they can be as cheap as ~$60/month realistically... I think its better to just install Proxmox on a single dedicated box and spin up your own private VMs if you are honestly going to need multiple VMs.
- jeffasinger 13y agoExactly, for that situation, I ended up going with an entirely overpowered dedicated server with an E5 and 32GB of RAM. I shopped around, but was very conscience of network quality, quality of support I'd get, and was still able to get away with paying about $250/mo, which is very reasonable compared to any kind of cloud offering.
- Karunamon 13y agoThanks for pointing that provider out to me. Those are some of the best prices i've seen this side of Hetzner.
- mwcampbell 13y agoHuh? Containers are quite lightweight; you can run several of them in 2 GB of RAM.
- Karunamon 13y agoI was referring more to the applications within than container overhead.
- dangayle 13y agoWhat? With Linode you can easily add more ram. It's an awful deal ($5 per MB), but you can do it if you really needed.
- dangayle 13y agoSorry, it was $5 per 90MB. Forgot to add the 90
- opendais 13y agoNot if you need them to run on separate physical hosts. [e.g. A galera cluster]
- surye 13y agoAnd I would say the market on that need is pretty small, as originally stated, not nonexistent.