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Is it intentional that Hacker School in NYC isn't on this list? It's structured very differently from many of the other code bootcamps, and I'd be curious how i

by sbisker 12y ago

Is it intentional that Hacker School in NYC isn't on this list? It's structured very differently from many of the other code bootcamps, and I'd be curious how its differences shake out in terms of effectiveness of graduates. I know intermediate and advanced level coders can do Hacker School as well, but I ask because I worked with a Hacker School graduate who fits your definition (never coded before, only spent 2+ months ramping up at Hacker School before landing his first coding job with us.)

vitno 12y ago
I don't think of Hacker School as a bootcamp. The emphasis is very different than my understanding of what a bootcamp provides. The way I think of HS is as a place where you can focus and learn with like minded people in a conducive environment. It isn't designed to churn out app/web developers (not that that is a bad thing). It's as they say, "like a writing retreat".
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glaugh 12y ago
It was an intentional choice, based on my (incorrect) impression that it was exclusively more advanced folks. Though now I'll act like vitno's logic was mine, too :) I think if I were to do it over I might include it, but at this point I'd rather not change anything and risk messing something up in the survey data. Thanks for bringing it up.
- sbisker 12y ago
  Oops - apparently Hacker School no longer really encourages that sort of person. I can't edit my post to say that, unfortunately. That's a shame; they trained our guy far better than most of the candidates I see coming out of "bootcamps".... From their FAQ: >>I don't know how to program. Can I do Hacker School? No, sorry. Hacker School is currently only for people who already know how to code. Think of it like a writers workshop. We're here to help people become great novelists, but you have to already know English and be comfortable writing essays.
- abecedarius 12y ago
  They don't accept people who's never coded before, but you don't need to have coded a lot. (I was surprised at this news of someone who'd never coded at all -- I'd still guess it's just a slight exaggeration.)
  - sbisker 12y ago
    I just asked the guy. He had self-taught himself programming on his own for a few months prior to attending the program, but attended in part to make a career change (had done startup biz dev / operations / whatnot prior.) Maybe that counted, or maybe they just tightened the restriction since then. That said, this was spring of 2012. I'm sure Hacker School has changed a lot since then! Suffice it to say he's a fabulous programmer now. :)
    - abecedarius 12y ago
      That's in line with my experience (fall '12). I just don't want anyone reading this to be discouraged from applying because they're not 'advanced' -- there was a Hacker School blog post on that pretty recently.

by sbisker 12y ago

vitno 12y ago

I don't think of Hacker School as a bootcamp. The emphasis is very different than my understanding of what a bootcamp provides. The way I think of HS is as a place where you can focus and learn with like minded people in a conducive environment. It isn't designed to churn out app/web developers (not that that is a bad thing). It's as they say, "like a writing retreat".

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glaugh 12y ago

It was an intentional choice, based on my (incorrect) impression that it was exclusively more advanced folks. Though now I'll act like vitno's logic was mine, too :) I think if I were to do it over I might include it, but at this point I'd rather not change anything and risk messing something up in the survey data. Thanks for bringing it up.

sbisker 12y ago
Oops - apparently Hacker School no longer really encourages that sort of person. I can't edit my post to say that, unfortunately. That's a shame; they trained our guy far better than most of the candidates I see coming out of "bootcamps".... From their FAQ: >>I don't know how to program. Can I do Hacker School? No, sorry. Hacker School is currently only for people who already know how to code. Think of it like a writers workshop. We're here to help people become great novelists, but you have to already know English and be comfortable writing essays.
abecedarius 12y ago
They don't accept people who's never coded before, but you don't need to have coded a lot. (I was surprised at this news of someone who'd never coded at all -- I'd still guess it's just a slight exaggeration.)
- sbisker 12y ago
  I just asked the guy. He had self-taught himself programming on his own for a few months prior to attending the program, but attended in part to make a career change (had done startup biz dev / operations / whatnot prior.) Maybe that counted, or maybe they just tightened the restriction since then. That said, this was spring of 2012. I'm sure Hacker School has changed a lot since then! Suffice it to say he's a fabulous programmer now. :)
  - abecedarius 12y ago
    That's in line with my experience (fall '12). I just don't want anyone reading this to be discouraged from applying because they're not 'advanced' -- there was a Hacker School blog post on that pretty recently.