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I'm not trying to control what you say. I am critiquing what you said. I also didn't assume you had a hidden agenda. Again I just pointed out that your response
by comrh 13y ago
I'm not trying to control what you say. I am critiquing what you said. I also didn't assume you had a hidden agenda. Again I just pointed out that your response is a common trope used to discredit people's opinions.
> Someone saying "I'm a product guy" is in no way a slight or a problem in the world.
In your world. Is it so inconceivable to you that other people might feel different things are problematic in their lives? Who are you to decide what is and isn't a problem when someone has just expressed that they are conflicted about something.
- mjolk 13y ago>In your world. Is it so inconceivable to you that other people might feel different things are problematic in their lives? It's not inconceivable, but I find it absurd that this is topic that a rational actor would feel is worth getting frustrated over. >Who are you to decide what is and isn't a problem when someone has just expressed that they are conflicted about something. Here's the thing: when you say "yeah, the thing you said is a tactic that is commonly used by jerks," the other party is going to take offense. Especially when it comes to feminism, in which being a chicken little just ends up trivializing the problem domain.
- comrh 13y agoJust because you were offended doesn't mean the criticism isn't on point. Nice dig at all of feminism though, again implying the small issues aren't important.
- mjolk 13y ago>Nice dig at all of feminism though, again implying the small issues aren't important. No part of that was a criticism feminism. If anything, I was defending it from you.
- hashbanged 13y agoIf you think that blogs like this are a threat to feminism, I don't think we're working with the same definition of feminism. Can you please explain how you are defending feminism right now?
- hashbanged 13y ago> rational actor What does economic theory have to do with it? Rational choice theory is about making assumptions about what economic choices people will make when reasoning about people in general. It is a very limited view of human decision making, and have nothing to do with you deciding weather or not someone is rational for getting frustrated over something you don't experience. But it's nice that you dismissed the author as being irrational. That's another common silencing tactic. If you think something is trivial, ignore it.
- ellenchisa1 13y agoI am a bit confused why you'd immediately dismiss me as a "non-rational actor" because I wrote this. I chose to publish a rant-y personal opinion for a very rational reason. Many of my male friends happily share drafts of writing, or writing that's done in a short period of time. I've always felt uncomfortable doing that because I'm afraid it will reflect badly on "women in technology" or be viewed as a larger signal. I wanted to do it as an experiment to see how it was received. I've actually been pleasantly surprised by how it's been received overall (thanks, commenters!) On top of that, I feel like it should be clear from the piece that it's not something I view as being the biggest issue ever. I labeled it as a "rant-y personal opinion" for a reason. It's just something that annoys me. Many of my friends didn't know it was a pet peeve of mine, so it was shared primarily in that context. There are many issues I care more about. The one most similar to this piece is a much longer take on how we view women in Product Management: http://blog.ellenchisa.com/2014/04/06/portraying-women-in-product-management/ http://blog.ellenchisa.com/2014/04/06/portraying-women-in-pr...