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WordPress 3.9, "Smith"

49 points by krogsgard 12y ago

100k 12y ago
If you are unfortunate enough to work on a WordPress plugin, one of the nice features of this release is the ability to symlink plugins. http://make.wordpress.org/core/2014/04/14/symlinked-plugins-in-wordpress-3-9/ http://make.wordpress.org/core/2014/04/14/symlinked-plugins-... This will make iterating on changes to a plugin much easier.
- taf2 12y ago
  yes - this is a great update. I used to try and keep a separate folder for projects and my wordpress install and as I recall I had to come up with a Makefile to copy files into the WP plugins directory for testing... symlink is definitely a big win.
- lingben 12y ago
  sorry but can someone ELI5? what does symlinking plugins mean actually? thanks
  - tnorthcutt 12y ago
    From the link: One of the great advantages to this is that plugin developers can keep their plugin separate from their WordPress installation. This is a boon for developers with multiple installs who want to test compatibility; keep in mind that you can symlink the entire plugins directory if you're testing multiple! Basically, if you're a plugin dev, you no longer have to update your files across multiple local installs; you can simply keep your plugin files in one place, and symlink that plugin to any local install you're testing on.
    - jwarren 12y ago
      Another alternative to this is to develop in a local multisite install. Not suitable for every scenario, but good enough for 90% of sites in my experience.
  - hexis 12y ago
    Can somebody explain like I'm 5 what ELI5 means?
JacksonGariety 12y ago
Was literally listening to "Walk on the Wild Side" when I clicked this. What are the odds?
- JacksonGariety 12y ago
  Why the downvotes? Anyone have a clue?
  - ZenoArrow 12y ago
    Nope, not sure.
  - radicaledward 12y ago
    In general, I believe comments such as this are downvoted on HN because they are interpreted as adding little or no value to the conversation while attempting to shift focus away from the topic at hand. I'm not saying that was your intention, but it might be perceived that way by people with the power to downvote (a power I don't have or care about much). This kind of policing is generally done here with the intention of keeping the site from turning into just another subreddit.
    - ZenoArrow 12y ago
      I'm not disagreeing with you, but there's very little consistency in this behaviour. The large amount of bikeshedding over trivial matters (a project name, a license version, etc...) shows people share their opinion regardless of whether it adds depth or is strictly relevant to the conversation.
zavulon 12y ago
I LOVE the fact that you can now drag & drop images from your desktop directly the post, skipping the annoying "Add Media" step.
- JeremyMorgan 12y ago
  Yes, but do you still get the same options you have on add media (title, alt, caption etc)? I haven't had a chance to try it yet.
  - levineuland 12y ago
    It gives you all of the same options, as well as the ability to select a different images before inserting.
- SDGT 12y ago
  I built this functionality into a few apps that never made it past proof of concept, but a good library to get your feet wet with is dropzone: http://www.dropzonejs.com/ http://www.dropzonejs.com/
diminish 12y ago
Could anyone point me some stats on wordpress version usage? For developing themes and a plugin, should I simply target and test on the latest version?
- tnorthcutt 12y ago
  Here's the stats page on wordpress.org: http://wordpress.org/about/stats/ http://wordpress.org/about/stats/ In short, depending on the purpose & features of your plugin, you may want to consider testing on older versions as well. With themes, it shouldn't be too big of an issue to ensure compatibility for a couple of versions back, at least. Edit: Probably not entirely accurate, see this tweet by a core dev: https://twitter.com/nacin/status/456516848763146240 https://twitter.com/nacin/status/456516848763146240
- krogsgard 12y ago
  It's pretty acceptable for themes and plugins to expect people to be on the latest version of WordPress, or at worst maybe one version behind. The more complicated support metric is PHP version. Unfortunately, widely used plugins probably still need to support PHP 5.2, because so many hosts won't upgrade their client's PHP versions.
chillingeffect 12y ago
403- forbidden. Is there some unlawful (carnal) knowledge in this release?! :)
DotSauce 12y ago
Cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.poststat.us%2Fwordpress-3-9%2F&oq=cache%3Awww.poststat.us%2Fwordpress-3-9%2F&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.991j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.p...
- krogsgard 12y ago
  should be back up now
- snarkyturtle 12y ago
  Official Wordpress blog: http://wordpress.org/news/2014/04/smith/ http://wordpress.org/news/2014/04/smith/
Legion 12y ago
I don't have words for how obnoxious the little flying "Quote" box that appears when highlighting text is.
- ihsw 12y ago
  Indeed, especially since I have a habit of selecting and deselecting text while reading it.
- krogsgard 12y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. I've considered disabling it for a while, though some folks have really enjoyed it.
  - deleted 12y ago
    [deleted]
  - radicaledward 12y ago
    I'm not sure why the parent doesn't like it, but I can explain why I don't like it. I think there's a certain group of users who have developed the habit of highlighting while reading to keep their place in scrolling media. At least, that's why I highlight text a lot. For me, the quote box is annoying, but I can see how it might be useful for people who don't highlight text while reading.
  - mpyne 12y ago
    > though some folks have really enjoyed it Some folks really enjoyed <blink>, <marquee>, and auto-playing MIDI songs. I'm not saying those opinions are unimportant, but maybe features that resemble <marquee> would be unpopular for reasons similar to why <marquee> became unpopular? ;)
  - ovulator 12y ago
    I am also one of those who highlights while they read and find this quiet annoying. There seems to be no real reason for the button to start at your mouse pointer and move over to it’s final resting position. Just showing it in its final resting position would decrease the obnoxiousness of it ten fold.
BorisMelnik 12y ago
Really glad they got rid of paste from Word (even though just a tinyMCE update) I would see people do this and it would look just fine, but it would add each paragraph as its own div sometimes and all other crazy formatting that would mess up the responsiveness of the site. Love seeing a lot of these other features as well, really excited for 4.0 :)
dpcx 12y ago
And yet, there still isn't a version that works with Postgres.

49 points by krogsgard 12y ago

100k 12y ago

If you are unfortunate enough to work on a WordPress plugin, one of the nice features of this release is the ability to symlink plugins. http://make.wordpress.org/core/2014/04/14/symlinked-plugins-in-wordpress-3-9/ http://make.wordpress.org/core/2014/04/14/symlinked-plugins-... This will make iterating on changes to a plugin much easier.

taf2 12y ago
yes - this is a great update. I used to try and keep a separate folder for projects and my wordpress install and as I recall I had to come up with a Makefile to copy files into the WP plugins directory for testing... symlink is definitely a big win.
lingben 12y ago
sorry but can someone ELI5? what does symlinking plugins mean actually? thanks
- tnorthcutt 12y ago
  From the link: One of the great advantages to this is that plugin developers can keep their plugin separate from their WordPress installation. This is a boon for developers with multiple installs who want to test compatibility; keep in mind that you can symlink the entire plugins directory if you're testing multiple! Basically, if you're a plugin dev, you no longer have to update your files across multiple local installs; you can simply keep your plugin files in one place, and symlink that plugin to any local install you're testing on.
  - jwarren 12y ago
    Another alternative to this is to develop in a local multisite install. Not suitable for every scenario, but good enough for 90% of sites in my experience.
- hexis 12y ago
  Can somebody explain like I'm 5 what ELI5 means?

JacksonGariety 12y ago

Was literally listening to "Walk on the Wild Side" when I clicked this. What are the odds?

JacksonGariety 12y ago
Why the downvotes? Anyone have a clue?
- ZenoArrow 12y ago
  Nope, not sure.
- radicaledward 12y ago
  In general, I believe comments such as this are downvoted on HN because they are interpreted as adding little or no value to the conversation while attempting to shift focus away from the topic at hand. I'm not saying that was your intention, but it might be perceived that way by people with the power to downvote (a power I don't have or care about much). This kind of policing is generally done here with the intention of keeping the site from turning into just another subreddit.
  - ZenoArrow 12y ago
    I'm not disagreeing with you, but there's very little consistency in this behaviour. The large amount of bikeshedding over trivial matters (a project name, a license version, etc...) shows people share their opinion regardless of whether it adds depth or is strictly relevant to the conversation.

zavulon 12y ago

I LOVE the fact that you can now drag & drop images from your desktop directly the post, skipping the annoying "Add Media" step.

JeremyMorgan 12y ago
Yes, but do you still get the same options you have on add media (title, alt, caption etc)? I haven't had a chance to try it yet.
- levineuland 12y ago
  It gives you all of the same options, as well as the ability to select a different images before inserting.
SDGT 12y ago
I built this functionality into a few apps that never made it past proof of concept, but a good library to get your feet wet with is dropzone: http://www.dropzonejs.com/ http://www.dropzonejs.com/

diminish 12y ago

Could anyone point me some stats on wordpress version usage? For developing themes and a plugin, should I simply target and test on the latest version?

tnorthcutt 12y ago
Here's the stats page on wordpress.org: http://wordpress.org/about/stats/ http://wordpress.org/about/stats/ In short, depending on the purpose & features of your plugin, you may want to consider testing on older versions as well. With themes, it shouldn't be too big of an issue to ensure compatibility for a couple of versions back, at least. Edit: Probably not entirely accurate, see this tweet by a core dev: https://twitter.com/nacin/status/456516848763146240 https://twitter.com/nacin/status/456516848763146240
krogsgard 12y ago
It's pretty acceptable for themes and plugins to expect people to be on the latest version of WordPress, or at worst maybe one version behind. The more complicated support metric is PHP version. Unfortunately, widely used plugins probably still need to support PHP 5.2, because so many hosts won't upgrade their client's PHP versions.

chillingeffect 12y ago

403- forbidden. Is there some unlawful (carnal) knowledge in this release?! :)

DotSauce 12y ago

Cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.poststat.us%2Fwordpress-3-9%2F&oq=cache%3Awww.poststat.us%2Fwordpress-3-9%2F&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.991j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.p...

krogsgard 12y ago
should be back up now
snarkyturtle 12y ago
Official Wordpress blog: http://wordpress.org/news/2014/04/smith/ http://wordpress.org/news/2014/04/smith/

Legion 12y ago

I don't have words for how obnoxious the little flying "Quote" box that appears when highlighting text is.

ihsw 12y ago
Indeed, especially since I have a habit of selecting and deselecting text while reading it.
krogsgard 12y ago
Thanks for the feedback. I've considered disabling it for a while, though some folks have really enjoyed it.
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
- radicaledward 12y ago
  I'm not sure why the parent doesn't like it, but I can explain why I don't like it. I think there's a certain group of users who have developed the habit of highlighting while reading to keep their place in scrolling media. At least, that's why I highlight text a lot. For me, the quote box is annoying, but I can see how it might be useful for people who don't highlight text while reading.
- mpyne 12y ago
  > though some folks have really enjoyed it Some folks really enjoyed <blink>, <marquee>, and auto-playing MIDI songs. I'm not saying those opinions are unimportant, but maybe features that resemble <marquee> would be unpopular for reasons similar to why <marquee> became unpopular? ;)
- ovulator 12y ago
  I am also one of those who highlights while they read and find this quiet annoying. There seems to be no real reason for the button to start at your mouse pointer and move over to it’s final resting position. Just showing it in its final resting position would decrease the obnoxiousness of it ten fold.

BorisMelnik 12y ago

Really glad they got rid of paste from Word (even though just a tinyMCE update) I would see people do this and it would look just fine, but it would add each paragraph as its own div sometimes and all other crazy formatting that would mess up the responsiveness of the site. Love seeing a lot of these other features as well, really excited for 4.0 :)

dpcx 12y ago

And yet, there still isn't a version that works with Postgres.