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I think the key is the purchasing model. A "free phone" with contract every 2 years creates a situation where the consumer doesn't value repairing/upgrading the

I think the key is the purchasing model. A "free phone" with contract every 2 years creates a situation where the consumer doesn't value repairing/upgrading their phone. If you had to pay say $600-$800 for a phone upfront, one is upgradable/repairable and the other is not (but faster/sexier) I think some (maybe many) would choose the former.

adestefan 13y ago
I know people that just toss an $800 laptop like it's nothing when something goes wrong. We truly live in a disposable society.
- k-mcgrady 13y ago
  >> "I know people that just toss an $800 laptop like it's nothing when something goes wrong. We truly live in a disposable society." Nope. You just happen to know people who can afford to toss an $800 laptop. For most of the 'lower middle class' people I know purchasing a laptop is a big deal and only happens once every 3/4/5 years. Even then they don't spend more than £400. Even when their laptop is practically unusable through age, damaged parts, viruses etc. they continue to use it because £400/$800/a new laptop is a lot of money.
  - sp332 13y ago
    But the only difference is the amount of money, not the attitude. No one thinks "I can afford a new laptop, but I'll rehabilitate this old one anyway."
    - dublinben 13y ago
      I must not be anyone then. I have a (nearly) six-year old Thinkpad that I've upgraded a few times. I could have afforded a new replacement at any time, but I'd rather keep using the machine I already have.
- dlhavema 13y ago
  i very much agree, products don't tend to last as long as they do anymore, and servicing them tends to cost close to the cost of new ones.. 2-3 years ago I got new sony led tv and my wife was under the impression it would be our TV for the next 10-15 years... if major components don't go out in the next 1-3 years i will be happily suprised
lewaldman 13y ago
I think you guys are missing the point here. The point is: A barebone model for 50 bucks that you could transform in a high-end device expending more money on it when you can afford it. Also... need more battery life? Why not replace that extra RAM memory module for battery one? Or even... why not to replace the 4 Gb RAM module for one with 1Gb + more battery?
- eric_cc 13y ago
  I get what you're saying and yet the more I read about this the more I find myself shaking my head thinking how stupid this really is. It's clearly not marketed at me. I will continue to buy standard STRESS-FREE devices.
  - Guvante 13y ago
    Not every device is made to satisfy the entire market. And they have already acknowledged they plan on having "effort free" choices available for consumers. Probably have a "about the same as a Samsung" option, a cheap option that has the important bells and maybe a minimal option you can build off of.

adestefan 13y ago

I know people that just toss an $800 laptop like it's nothing when something goes wrong. We truly live in a disposable society.

k-mcgrady 13y ago
>> "I know people that just toss an $800 laptop like it's nothing when something goes wrong. We truly live in a disposable society." Nope. You just happen to know people who can afford to toss an $800 laptop. For most of the 'lower middle class' people I know purchasing a laptop is a big deal and only happens once every 3/4/5 years. Even then they don't spend more than £400. Even when their laptop is practically unusable through age, damaged parts, viruses etc. they continue to use it because £400/$800/a new laptop is a lot of money.
- sp332 13y ago
  But the only difference is the amount of money, not the attitude. No one thinks "I can afford a new laptop, but I'll rehabilitate this old one anyway."
  - dublinben 13y ago
    I must not be anyone then. I have a (nearly) six-year old Thinkpad that I've upgraded a few times. I could have afforded a new replacement at any time, but I'd rather keep using the machine I already have.
dlhavema 13y ago
i very much agree, products don't tend to last as long as they do anymore, and servicing them tends to cost close to the cost of new ones.. 2-3 years ago I got new sony led tv and my wife was under the impression it would be our TV for the next 10-15 years... if major components don't go out in the next 1-3 years i will be happily suprised

lewaldman 13y ago

I think you guys are missing the point here. The point is: A barebone model for 50 bucks that you could transform in a high-end device expending more money on it when you can afford it. Also... need more battery life? Why not replace that extra RAM memory module for battery one? Or even... why not to replace the 4 Gb RAM module for one with 1Gb + more battery?

eric_cc 13y ago
I get what you're saying and yet the more I read about this the more I find myself shaking my head thinking how stupid this really is. It's clearly not marketed at me. I will continue to buy standard STRESS-FREE devices.
- Guvante 13y ago
  Not every device is made to satisfy the entire market. And they have already acknowledged they plan on having "effort free" choices available for consumers. Probably have a "about the same as a Samsung" option, a cheap option that has the important bells and maybe a minimal option you can build off of.