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I'm much of a fan. This update make windows phone, faster, looking way more modern. All main app have been refactored. + Vpn + Notification center + Calendar

by h1fra 13y ago

I'm much of a fan. This update make windows phone, faster, looking way more modern. All main app have been refactored. + Vpn + Notification center + Calendar + Battery + Cortona... I don't see anything that was not improved. Anyone can troll windows for windows 8 on desktop, I first. But the phone version is really great now

sz4kerto 13y ago
> I don't see anything that was not improved. The destruction of the hubs is certainly painful. There are many people who're currently struggling with battery drain issues, that's probably going to be fixed though. There's no agenda view in the calendar.
- kchoudhu 13y ago
  This has been driving me insane. I loved cross posting to Facebook and Twitter from the People hub. The application that brings that back will earn my money. The prospect of paying for something I used to get for free is kind of infuriating though.
  - cwyers 13y ago
    Remember, this is the developer preview release. The intent behind removing those from the People hub, IIRC, was that the Twitter and Facebook apps can integrate into the Hub themselves with new APIs. By the time Windows Phone 8.1 hits general availability, Facebook and Twitter app updates may restore the functionality.
    - MLR 13y ago
      I've not got a Windows Phone myself, but from all the reviews I've read the functionality is neutered somewhat, even after the applications have reintegrated themselves.
bananas 13y ago
I'm going to throw my opinion in here because I find a few real pain points that drove me to Android eventually: 1. If someone sends me a document or a file or something and I need to do something with it and send it back, it's hopeless. There isn't enough of a filesystem to do that sort of stuff with it. The whole WP isolated storage thing is painful and really ruins it for me. Not only that if someone sends me a media file or I download an mp3 for example I can only see it within scope of the app that received it and never can I add it to my music library without connecting it to a PC. I can't even play it without blocking the entire phone UI. 2. I really don't want to have to sign in at all and/or activate my phone as a developer device to deploy any apps or even a simple one shot custom app I've written for my own use. Occasionally, historically with WM6.5 and predecessors I've built the odd diagnostic tool that sits on the device. I can do the same in HTML on a web server somewhere but that relies on a network connection to be there, which even though I live in London isn't always the case. In fact it's pretty terrible in the suburbs. On basic GPRS WP is heading towards useless. 3. Android USB OTG is awesome. I can move stuff between USB sticks, plug keyboards in and all sorts. This has got me out of the crap a few times already and I've only had an Android handset for about a month now. The cable that enabled all this cost me (including delivery) £0.73. 4. Nokia made awesome hardware. Not joking it was the best stuff out there. Since the Lumia 820 though, it's turned to crap. I have repaired a number of handsets and they aren't designed with durability in mind any more and the parts are quite difficult to get hold of unless you're Nokia authorised service. Fortunately they still use standard screws (Torx TX4/5) but when you get inside, it's problematic.
- stinos 13y ago
  honest question from a non smartphone owner: isn't point 4 true for like > 90% of mobile hardware today? Just judging by the looks of the outside of it?
  - bananas 13y ago
    The outside is of little concern. I repair a lot of handsets (it's my sideline between contracts). There are three classes of handsets: 1. Glued together with proprietary screws and requires heat gun to get inside. 2. Screwed + taped together with Torx screws and requires no heat gun to get inside. Parts are heavily integrated. 3. Screwed together with any screws and requires no heat gun to get inside or any tape. Parts are loosely integrated and easy to replace. iOS devices are all (1) and some Macs are now as well. Nokia was a (3) but have moved to a (2) recently which is a step backwards in the war against throwing these things away every 5 minutes due to minor problems. I think that is my problem. The size of the device is not affected by the above. Some of the smallest devices I've seen are perfectly servicable. It's all down to if they want it serviced or not. Ultimately parts used to be really easy to get for everything. I'm even seeing shortages on iPhone 5S parts now.

by h1fra 13y ago

sz4kerto 13y ago

> I don't see anything that was not improved. The destruction of the hubs is certainly painful. There are many people who're currently struggling with battery drain issues, that's probably going to be fixed though. There's no agenda view in the calendar.

kchoudhu 13y ago
This has been driving me insane. I loved cross posting to Facebook and Twitter from the People hub. The application that brings that back will earn my money. The prospect of paying for something I used to get for free is kind of infuriating though.
- cwyers 13y ago
  Remember, this is the developer preview release. The intent behind removing those from the People hub, IIRC, was that the Twitter and Facebook apps can integrate into the Hub themselves with new APIs. By the time Windows Phone 8.1 hits general availability, Facebook and Twitter app updates may restore the functionality.
  - MLR 13y ago
    I've not got a Windows Phone myself, but from all the reviews I've read the functionality is neutered somewhat, even after the applications have reintegrated themselves.

bananas 13y ago

I'm going to throw my opinion in here because I find a few real pain points that drove me to Android eventually: 1. If someone sends me a document or a file or something and I need to do something with it and send it back, it's hopeless. There isn't enough of a filesystem to do that sort of stuff with it. The whole WP isolated storage thing is painful and really ruins it for me. Not only that if someone sends me a media file or I download an mp3 for example I can only see it within scope of the app that received it and never can I add it to my music library without connecting it to a PC. I can't even play it without blocking the entire phone UI. 2. I really don't want to have to sign in at all and/or activate my phone as a developer device to deploy any apps or even a simple one shot custom app I've written for my own use. Occasionally, historically with WM6.5 and predecessors I've built the odd diagnostic tool that sits on the device. I can do the same in HTML on a web server somewhere but that relies on a network connection to be there, which even though I live in London isn't always the case. In fact it's pretty terrible in the suburbs. On basic GPRS WP is heading towards useless. 3. Android USB OTG is awesome. I can move stuff between USB sticks, plug keyboards in and all sorts. This has got me out of the crap a few times already and I've only had an Android handset for about a month now. The cable that enabled all this cost me (including delivery) £0.73. 4. Nokia made awesome hardware. Not joking it was the best stuff out there. Since the Lumia 820 though, it's turned to crap. I have repaired a number of handsets and they aren't designed with durability in mind any more and the parts are quite difficult to get hold of unless you're Nokia authorised service. Fortunately they still use standard screws (Torx TX4/5) but when you get inside, it's problematic.

stinos 13y ago
honest question from a non smartphone owner: isn't point 4 true for like > 90% of mobile hardware today? Just judging by the looks of the outside of it?
- bananas 13y ago
  The outside is of little concern. I repair a lot of handsets (it's my sideline between contracts). There are three classes of handsets: 1. Glued together with proprietary screws and requires heat gun to get inside. 2. Screwed + taped together with Torx screws and requires no heat gun to get inside. Parts are heavily integrated. 3. Screwed together with any screws and requires no heat gun to get inside or any tape. Parts are loosely integrated and easy to replace. iOS devices are all (1) and some Macs are now as well. Nokia was a (3) but have moved to a (2) recently which is a step backwards in the war against throwing these things away every 5 minutes due to minor problems. I think that is my problem. The size of the device is not affected by the above. Some of the smallest devices I've seen are perfectly servicable. It's all down to if they want it serviced or not. Ultimately parts used to be really easy to get for everything. I'm even seeing shortages on iPhone 5S parts now.