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> In fact, physicians are so bummed out that 9 out of 10 doctors would discourage anyone from entering the profession. OP missed a perfect headline opportunit

> In fact, physicians are so bummed out that 9 out of 10 doctors would discourage anyone from entering the profession. OP missed a perfect headline opportunity: "9 out of 10 doctors recommend not becoming a doctor." But seriously, we wonder what's wrong with healthcare. I seriously believe it's because of the lawsuit-happy nature of patients nowadays. Yeah, something could go wrong during your surgery, or your diagnosis for that matter. But that's an inherent risk in having something wrong with you that you need checked out.

alayne 13y ago
I've read that malpractice insurance is a few thousand dollars a year and the premiums have been going down.
- coned88 13y ago
  depends where you live. a doctor in nyc could pay $30K/yr while one in kansas $2k/yr
eldavido 13y ago
Anecdotally, nonpayment is a much bigger problem than lawsuits. I remember listening to the CEO of Carle, a large Central Illinois healthcare chain, talking about this, and saying that "we expect to collect 60 cents of every dollar we bill". It's a revenue optimization problem -- the goal is to collect the most revenue overall. Set prices too high and people/insurance goes elsewhere, too low and you leave money on the table the org could use to cross-subsidize non-payers.
- ryanburk 13y ago
  > "We expect to collect 60 cents of every dollar we bill" you have to be careful with that statement since it can be a clever way of talking about what insurance agrees to pay with the chain versus the "retail" rate the doctors charge. my father is a general practitioner and I was always amazed when he started saying about 25 years ago that he wouldn't let me become a GP if I had gone into medicine. and this article covers all of his concerns well. malpractice is a big part of the issue and it varies state to state. for example, in pennsylvania malpractice insurance is amazingly expensive. and people sue all the time, which is sad unless it is gross incompetence, since every doctor I've met is trying their best.
- joshlegs 13y ago
  so what you're saying is no matter how the healthcare system is designed, the healthy (or maybe just wealthy?) always end up paying for the rest?
  - eldavido 13y ago
    In practice, this is exactly what happens. Many hospitals have a mandate not to deny treatment, so many people come to the hospital (especially to the emergency room, where care is known to be more expensive than non-emergent settings) and simply don't pay after the fact. I don't know how to solve this, or whether it's fair, but it's pretty universal if you talk to people in healthcare billing.

alayne 13y ago

I've read that malpractice insurance is a few thousand dollars a year and the premiums have been going down.

coned88 13y ago
depends where you live. a doctor in nyc could pay $30K/yr while one in kansas $2k/yr

eldavido 13y ago

Anecdotally, nonpayment is a much bigger problem than lawsuits. I remember listening to the CEO of Carle, a large Central Illinois healthcare chain, talking about this, and saying that "we expect to collect 60 cents of every dollar we bill". It's a revenue optimization problem -- the goal is to collect the most revenue overall. Set prices too high and people/insurance goes elsewhere, too low and you leave money on the table the org could use to cross-subsidize non-payers.

ryanburk 13y ago
> "We expect to collect 60 cents of every dollar we bill" you have to be careful with that statement since it can be a clever way of talking about what insurance agrees to pay with the chain versus the "retail" rate the doctors charge. my father is a general practitioner and I was always amazed when he started saying about 25 years ago that he wouldn't let me become a GP if I had gone into medicine. and this article covers all of his concerns well. malpractice is a big part of the issue and it varies state to state. for example, in pennsylvania malpractice insurance is amazingly expensive. and people sue all the time, which is sad unless it is gross incompetence, since every doctor I've met is trying their best.
joshlegs 13y ago
so what you're saying is no matter how the healthcare system is designed, the healthy (or maybe just wealthy?) always end up paying for the rest?
- eldavido 13y ago
  In practice, this is exactly what happens. Many hospitals have a mandate not to deny treatment, so many people come to the hospital (especially to the emergency room, where care is known to be more expensive than non-emergent settings) and simply don't pay after the fact. I don't know how to solve this, or whether it's fair, but it's pretty universal if you talk to people in healthcare billing.