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That's a fairly cynical and negative point of view that goes against the core ideas on which Kickstarter was created. And yet, there's a high chance that you a

That's a fairly cynical and negative point of view that goes against the core ideas on which Kickstarter was created. And yet, there's a high chance that you are 100% right. I find it sad that we'll have to always consider that particular scenario from now on. Stupid Facebook.

stoev 12y ago
Kickstarter's core goal was to help inventors bring their ideas to life and help them fund initial production. It has since evolved into a platform that often helps their most engaged users find new ideas and get early access to new technology. Both of these processes benefit from one another, so I don't think that "it goes against the core ideas on which Kickstarter was created".
dragonwriter 12y ago
> That's a fairly cynical and negative point of view that goes against the core ideas on which Kickstarter was created. I don't think it really does. Kickstarter is expressly a way of getting resources people interested in offerings to launch them when the funds to start the to launch the offering wouldn't otherwise be available, in order to create sustainable businesses that would otherwise not get started because of lack of access to funds to start them. Obviously, one of the very common things to do with a viable business once it is running -- and one that maximizes the return for people who are best at (or most interested in) launching things -- is to establish the business, sell it to someone interested in running it for the long term, and use the proceeds to start more things. While particular exits might bother some people, I don't see how its contrary to the core ideas on which Kickstarter was created, or a sad thing. People who are well suited to getting the ball started on something aren't always best suited for later stages.
cdash 12y ago
Whatever kickstarter was meant to be it is clearly being used for nothing more than preorders far in advance and you don't even have a guarantee you will ever get the product you preorder. In exchange for that risk and tieing up your money for such a long time before the product is available you possibly get a product that might not otherwise exist. The truth is you don't really know if it wouldn't have existed without kickstarter or not.
- ansible 12y ago
  Yeah, this particular product is nice, but maybe I'm suffering from kickstarter-fatigue too. This is nice, but not unique enough to warrant special effort (and waiting months) to get it though.
amirmc 12y ago
> "I find it sad that we'll have to always consider that particular scenario from now on." People have had to consider that scenario for pretty much any business. Especially fledgling companies, as they might get bought by someone else or they might simply go bust. There's nothing specific to Kickstarter about this.

stoev 12y ago

Kickstarter's core goal was to help inventors bring their ideas to life and help them fund initial production. It has since evolved into a platform that often helps their most engaged users find new ideas and get early access to new technology. Both of these processes benefit from one another, so I don't think that "it goes against the core ideas on which Kickstarter was created".

dragonwriter 12y ago

> That's a fairly cynical and negative point of view that goes against the core ideas on which Kickstarter was created. I don't think it really does. Kickstarter is expressly a way of getting resources people interested in offerings to launch them when the funds to start the to launch the offering wouldn't otherwise be available, in order to create sustainable businesses that would otherwise not get started because of lack of access to funds to start them. Obviously, one of the very common things to do with a viable business once it is running -- and one that maximizes the return for people who are best at (or most interested in) launching things -- is to establish the business, sell it to someone interested in running it for the long term, and use the proceeds to start more things. While particular exits might bother some people, I don't see how its contrary to the core ideas on which Kickstarter was created, or a sad thing. People who are well suited to getting the ball started on something aren't always best suited for later stages.

cdash 12y ago

Whatever kickstarter was meant to be it is clearly being used for nothing more than preorders far in advance and you don't even have a guarantee you will ever get the product you preorder. In exchange for that risk and tieing up your money for such a long time before the product is available you possibly get a product that might not otherwise exist. The truth is you don't really know if it wouldn't have existed without kickstarter or not.

ansible 12y ago
Yeah, this particular product is nice, but maybe I'm suffering from kickstarter-fatigue too. This is nice, but not unique enough to warrant special effort (and waiting months) to get it though.

amirmc 12y ago

> "I find it sad that we'll have to always consider that particular scenario from now on." People have had to consider that scenario for pretty much any business. Especially fledgling companies, as they might get bought by someone else or they might simply go bust. There's nothing specific to Kickstarter about this.