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"If you are a developer of moderately sized software, you need a deployment system in place. Quick, what are the benefits and drawbacks of the following such sy

"If you are a developer of moderately sized software, you need a deployment system in place. Quick, what are the benefits and drawbacks of the following such systems: Puppet, Chef, Salt, Ansible, Vagrant, Docker. Now implement your deployment solution! Did you even realize which systems had no business being in that list?" I'm not understanding this, you can deploy with Puppet, Chef, Salt, Ansible, Vagrant and Docker. With Vagrant you can deploy a bare image and use Chef (or one of the others) or you can just deploy a fully setup box file (like with Docker).

jimmaswell 12y ago
I hope I'm not actually expected to know what any of those is.
- erkkie 12y ago
  If you're a developer and want to stay relevant I suggest you read up. With distributed systems becoming the norm rather than the exception, developers will need to understand how and where their code runs in production (and how it gets there) to be able to debug issues or write better behaving code.
  - agersant 12y ago
    This may be a simple oversight and I hope I don't sound too pedantic but you may need to broaden your definition of developer a bit. Developers who work on OS, games, embarked systems or professional applications (think CAD) are not very likely to need these anytime soon. More knowledge is always good so I'll check some out anyway!
    - clone1018 12y ago
      Vagrant can help developers who make OS and Games :). It can be used for simple testing on another OSes and environments.
    - erkkie 12y ago
      You're right, I should've narrowed the scope to client-server or perhaps "the web" (although the exact lines are blurry).
  - jimmaswell 12y ago
    are you saying the average developer is going to have to work with distributed systems in the near future (few years)?
    - erkkie 12y ago
      I would say there's a strong tendency towards that, depending on how one exactly defines 'average' and 'distributed'. Using a distributed datastore and/or a messaging queue in ones app is pretty common already, logical next step is for app components to follow the trend.
- vajrabum 12y ago
  If you're working or wanting to work as a Devops engineer or as a full stack engineer then you might want a new attitude about new stuff.
  - gaius 12y ago
    I currently work on an estate of thousands of unix hosts. We don't use anything on that list. Real engineering is not about jumping on bandwagons.
- pessimizer 12y ago
  It would take about an hour to be conversant in all of them.
LinuxDevOps 12y ago
While you are right you can deploy with any of those, Vagrant and Docker are virtualized containers, the other ones are "configuration management" tools, I guess that's what the OP meant.

jimmaswell 12y ago

I hope I'm not actually expected to know what any of those is.

erkkie 12y ago
If you're a developer and want to stay relevant I suggest you read up. With distributed systems becoming the norm rather than the exception, developers will need to understand how and where their code runs in production (and how it gets there) to be able to debug issues or write better behaving code.
- agersant 12y ago
  This may be a simple oversight and I hope I don't sound too pedantic but you may need to broaden your definition of developer a bit. Developers who work on OS, games, embarked systems or professional applications (think CAD) are not very likely to need these anytime soon. More knowledge is always good so I'll check some out anyway!
  - clone1018 12y ago
    Vagrant can help developers who make OS and Games :). It can be used for simple testing on another OSes and environments.
  - erkkie 12y ago
    You're right, I should've narrowed the scope to client-server or perhaps "the web" (although the exact lines are blurry).
- jimmaswell 12y ago
  are you saying the average developer is going to have to work with distributed systems in the near future (few years)?
  - erkkie 12y ago
    I would say there's a strong tendency towards that, depending on how one exactly defines 'average' and 'distributed'. Using a distributed datastore and/or a messaging queue in ones app is pretty common already, logical next step is for app components to follow the trend.
vajrabum 12y ago
If you're working or wanting to work as a Devops engineer or as a full stack engineer then you might want a new attitude about new stuff.
- gaius 12y ago
  I currently work on an estate of thousands of unix hosts. We don't use anything on that list. Real engineering is not about jumping on bandwagons.
pessimizer 12y ago
It would take about an hour to be conversant in all of them.

LinuxDevOps 12y ago

While you are right you can deploy with any of those, Vagrant and Docker are virtualized containers, the other ones are "configuration management" tools, I guess that's what the OP meant.