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Justin.tv Signs Deal With Fox, Gets Serious About Copyright Problems

• naz 17y ago
  I imagine their compete.com graph will look like scribd's after they kill their live sports traffic
  • paul9290 17y ago
    Ways to gain traction in the consumer market... 1. Use copyrighted content that is highly sought after. 2. Buy traffic, make it look like ur site is exploding 3. With suspect growth sign partnerships w/copyright Worked well for youtube though don't think they had to buy traffic 1 and 3 worked really well for them. Note: not trying to be negative here, just reviewing/studying the rise of various start-ups. How they got to be successful!
    • startingup 17y ago
      Exactly the same way I have felt about both Scribd and Justin.tv. Here is another "algorithm" to gain traction, last seen at Ning: 1) allow adult content - in their case adult oriented social networks 2) gain traction, 3) jettison the adult content to clean up your image. At least this second algorithm has no legal issues, but third party copyrighted content, I have serious legal/ethical issues with. I have never understood why Y Combinator never saw that as a problem.
      • paul9290 17y ago
        Because it worked for Youtube and some others and it's the way to success and a sale. Just following what others have done - thank god for the DMCA!
    • emmett 17y ago
      Why do you think Justin.tv is buying traffic? It's patently false, so I'm curious where you'd get the impression from.
      • paul9290 17y ago
        Sorry emmett I was not saying #2 applied to Justin.tv
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• zzz 17y ago
  i wish there was a website i could go to and stream every free cable channel at $1/hour. i don't have a tv, but use justin.tv/ustream to watch some sports events...
• wmf 17y ago
  What a deal; in exchange for implementing expensive filtering Fox will allow them to exist.
• sjs382 17y ago
  I've never understood why broadcasters were against this for live television. The ads are rebroadcast along with the content, after all. I guess theres the issue that they can't gather statistics on this audience, but still... Shouldn't this type of behavior (rebroadcasting) benefit the advertisers? It's mostly brand-related advertising, after all. And most of these brands exist outside the states...
  • jonknee 17y ago
    It breaks all their content agreements. Cable companies pay billions of dollars to carry content, why would they sit by while some website streams that content for free?
    • sjs382 17y ago
      I agree that it's a problem for the cable companies... But think of the NFL for instance: If NFL was going to look the other way in this matter, what repercussions would there be? Not like the carriers are going to stop carrying NFL content.
      • johnrob 17y ago
        I'm guessing lawsuits that refund the carriers' money?
        • sjs382 17y ago
          I'm sure the deal isn't everlasting... The content producers are the ones with leverage here, not the people who deliver the content (cable, satellite, etc)
          • jonknee 17y ago
            Whoever has the cash has the power. Why would the content producers want to miss out on a major source of their revenue so that Justin.tv can stream their stuff for free? The advertisers and end users don't care, but everyone else in the chain has a monetary incentive to shut down illegal streams like JTV.
• numbchuckskills 17y ago
  headline should read: Justin.tv Signs Deal With Fox, Gets Serious about Catering to the 64 People in the World Who Liveblog.
• zdwalter 17y ago
  we are helping on the copyright content