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This post consists of 1) an undocumented / unproven assertion, 2) a laughable generalization, and 3) an offensive generalization.

altero 13y ago
What part do you actually disagree with? If you have two persons with the same body mass, both of them drink 1 liter of whiskey. I bet in one case it will be 'really bad hangover' and in second case it will be 'suicide attempt'.
- mbillie1 13y ago
  I disagree with absurd stereotypes such as "men in general are treated like shit" and "most women are emotionally blackmailing their families".
  - altero 13y ago
    OK. Let's do the stats. Men are 95% of homeless, 90% of prisoners, 95% workplace deaths, 80% suicides... In second case: I went unnecessary offensive, call it "most women cry for help" whatever. The fact is that people who are at risk of suicidal behavior are equally distributed between genders [1]. Also mental illnesses such as schizophrenia are equally distributed [wikipedia]. So I see two options why women have much higher suicidal attempt rate: - it is a cry for help - men suicide attempts are under reported [1] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9501750
    - dang 13y ago
      Gender trolling is not welcome on Hacker News. Repeated, off-topic gender trolling is particularly unwelcome. Please do not do this again.
id 13y ago
I would say it's all three combined.
chaired 13y ago
I'm not saying what he said was valid, but I am saying that neither being offensive nor being a generalization needs to have a bearing on truth value. Another: All else being equal, women get a lot of attention and praise, while men generally have to compete harder for such things.
- mbillie1 13y ago
  > neither being offensive nor being a generalization needs to have a bearing on truth value. Of course, but neither being offensive nor being a generalization (especially of that magnitude) belongs in a mature discussion, either. > All else being equal, women get a lot of attention and praise, while men generally have to compete harder for such things. All else, however, is not equal. Feel free to examine average salaries in the US, or perhaps simple human rights in many other countries.

altero 13y ago

What part do you actually disagree with? If you have two persons with the same body mass, both of them drink 1 liter of whiskey. I bet in one case it will be 'really bad hangover' and in second case it will be 'suicide attempt'.

mbillie1 13y ago
I disagree with absurd stereotypes such as "men in general are treated like shit" and "most women are emotionally blackmailing their families".
- altero 13y ago
  OK. Let's do the stats. Men are 95% of homeless, 90% of prisoners, 95% workplace deaths, 80% suicides... In second case: I went unnecessary offensive, call it "most women cry for help" whatever. The fact is that people who are at risk of suicidal behavior are equally distributed between genders [1]. Also mental illnesses such as schizophrenia are equally distributed [wikipedia]. So I see two options why women have much higher suicidal attempt rate: - it is a cry for help - men suicide attempts are under reported [1] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9501750
  - dang 13y ago
    Gender trolling is not welcome on Hacker News. Repeated, off-topic gender trolling is particularly unwelcome. Please do not do this again.

id 13y ago

I would say it's all three combined.

chaired 13y ago

I'm not saying what he said was valid, but I am saying that neither being offensive nor being a generalization needs to have a bearing on truth value. Another: All else being equal, women get a lot of attention and praise, while men generally have to compete harder for such things.

mbillie1 13y ago
> neither being offensive nor being a generalization needs to have a bearing on truth value. Of course, but neither being offensive nor being a generalization (especially of that magnitude) belongs in a mature discussion, either. > All else being equal, women get a lot of attention and praise, while men generally have to compete harder for such things. All else, however, is not equal. Feel free to examine average salaries in the US, or perhaps simple human rights in many other countries.