I don't agree with that at all. For a start, socialism goes back further than Marx. The defining characteristic of socialism is the abolition of ownership of

I don't agree with that at all. For a start, socialism goes back further than Marx. The defining characteristic of socialism is the abolition of ownership of private property. Socialism, in the Marxian view, was what was going to arise given the inevitable collapse of capitalism. Everywhere this has been tried, it has ended in death and misery. The creation of a welfare state is not socialism. It's not even close, unless you want to do some post-hoc rebranding.