I came from an academic background in science (physical science; not computer science), and I couldn't agree more. There was always a sort of swagger detectable

I came from an academic background in science (physical science; not computer science), and I couldn't agree more. There was always a sort of swagger detectable in academics I worked with, but at the same time there was always a deep and profound understanding that we don't know a lot about anything. I get the opposite sense when I discuss things with software engineers and even many computer scientists. The antagonism toward others ("shit code") is especially pronounced. It's still uncomfortable for me.