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Why do you trust Dvorak on this? He said that cable modems would never happen: http://web.archive.org/web/19970415081814/http://www.pcmag.com/issues/1415/pcm00

by luigi 17y ago

Why do you trust Dvorak on this? He said that cable modems would never happen: http://web.archive.org/web/19970415081814/http://www.pcmag.com/issues/1415/pcm00059.htm http://web.archive.org/web/19970415081814/http://www.pcmag.c... He doesn't understand what the System Idle Process is: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000873.html http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000873.html Why do you believe Dvorak but not the guy who was vetted by a presidential administration?

jdminhbg 17y ago
I'm not really sure what the System Idle Process has to do with made-up degrees and companies.
- eli 17y ago
  Well if you're going to complain that a guy "[does] not sound like someone who studied computers or technology" it would be more convincing if there weren't several well-known instances of you demonstrating a lack of knowledge of computers and technology.
  - plinkplonk 17y ago
    "Well if you're going to complain that a guy "[does] not sound like someone who studied computers or technology" it would be more convincing if there weren't several well-known instances of you demonstrating a lack of knowledge of computers and technology." but that is not the real "complaint". Dvorak just says that led him to dig deeper. The accusation (or "complaint"if you will) is that Kundra fudged his credentials. It doesn't matter how technical Dvorak is for the truth or falsity of that statement. Attack the accusation (which is very specific and can be easily disproved) not the accuser.
tokenadult 17y ago
He said that cable modems would never happen I remember that, and I smile about that prediction as I use my cable modem to access the Internet, but I count his technical objection as prescient when I experience local modem pool latency here. Cable modems are a kluge, not a sound technical solution to broadband at home.
rev_null 17y ago
Well, Dvorak may know almost nothing about technology, but at the very least he should know something about frauds.
edw519 17y ago
Why do you believe Dvorak but not the guy who was vetted by a presidential administration? Fair question. 1. OP was well written and seemed well supported. If he's wrong about the degrees, then he's wrong and so am I. We'll find out soon enough. 2. "Attack the messenger" is a last resort tactic used when you don't know how to "attack the content". It doesn't work with me. 3. I believe that the vetting is strictly for political purposes, not for achievement or better use of taxpayer dollars. At least Dvorak earned his own way instead of sucking at the federal teat that I help fund. That gets him a little extra cred from me.
- luigi 17y ago
  So yeah, you and Dvorak are wrong: http://techinsider.nextgov.com/2009/08/on_kundras_college_records.php http://techinsider.nextgov.com/2009/08/on_kundras_college_re...
  - edw519 17y ago
    Sounds a little like, "He said, she said..." I don't know. I only know what I read here at hn :-). If OP is wrong then shame on me for believing him. He'll never have the same credibility with me again.
    - plinkplonk 17y ago
      I find it interesting that you believed before the accusations were verified. Even Dvorak phrases his "report" as a question, as does ths submitter. I can understand why you might wonder if Vivek Kundra is qualified after reading Dvoraks' blog. I did too, and I still haven't made up my mind, but I certainly didn't (and don't) believe Dvorak's repport just on his say so. Someone else asked "why don't you believe the White House instead of Dvorak?" I thought the whole thing was not about belief but rather about verification of claims.

by luigi 17y ago

jdminhbg 17y ago

I'm not really sure what the System Idle Process has to do with made-up degrees and companies.

eli 17y ago
Well if you're going to complain that a guy "[does] not sound like someone who studied computers or technology" it would be more convincing if there weren't several well-known instances of you demonstrating a lack of knowledge of computers and technology.
- plinkplonk 17y ago
  "Well if you're going to complain that a guy "[does] not sound like someone who studied computers or technology" it would be more convincing if there weren't several well-known instances of you demonstrating a lack of knowledge of computers and technology." but that is not the real "complaint". Dvorak just says that led him to dig deeper. The accusation (or "complaint"if you will) is that Kundra fudged his credentials. It doesn't matter how technical Dvorak is for the truth or falsity of that statement. Attack the accusation (which is very specific and can be easily disproved) not the accuser.

tokenadult 17y ago

He said that cable modems would never happen I remember that, and I smile about that prediction as I use my cable modem to access the Internet, but I count his technical objection as prescient when I experience local modem pool latency here. Cable modems are a kluge, not a sound technical solution to broadband at home.

rev_null 17y ago

Well, Dvorak may know almost nothing about technology, but at the very least he should know something about frauds.

edw519 17y ago

Why do you believe Dvorak but not the guy who was vetted by a presidential administration? Fair question. 1. OP was well written and seemed well supported. If he's wrong about the degrees, then he's wrong and so am I. We'll find out soon enough. 2. "Attack the messenger" is a last resort tactic used when you don't know how to "attack the content". It doesn't work with me. 3. I believe that the vetting is strictly for political purposes, not for achievement or better use of taxpayer dollars. At least Dvorak earned his own way instead of sucking at the federal teat that I help fund. That gets him a little extra cred from me.

luigi 17y ago
So yeah, you and Dvorak are wrong: http://techinsider.nextgov.com/2009/08/on_kundras_college_records.php http://techinsider.nextgov.com/2009/08/on_kundras_college_re...
- edw519 17y ago
  Sounds a little like, "He said, she said..." I don't know. I only know what I read here at hn :-). If OP is wrong then shame on me for believing him. He'll never have the same credibility with me again.
  - plinkplonk 17y ago
    I find it interesting that you believed before the accusations were verified. Even Dvorak phrases his "report" as a question, as does ths submitter. I can understand why you might wonder if Vivek Kundra is qualified after reading Dvoraks' blog. I did too, and I still haven't made up my mind, but I certainly didn't (and don't) believe Dvorak's repport just on his say so. Someone else asked "why don't you believe the White House instead of Dvorak?" I thought the whole thing was not about belief but rather about verification of claims.