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Since there still won't be a Python 2.8, I read this as the mainstream Python not evolving one bit for the next 6 years. For me, this would be grounds for movin

by andr 12y ago

Since there still won't be a Python 2.8, I read this as the mainstream Python not evolving one bit for the next 6 years. For me, this would be grounds for moving to a different language.

antocv 12y ago
Groovy, Guile and Clojure.
- jessaustin 12y ago
  Guile? Really?
- vorg 12y ago
  > not evolving one bit for the next 6 years [...] would be grounds for moving to a different language I'd never heard of Guile until you mentioned it. I looks like Scheme. If moving to a lisp-like language, Clojure, which you mention, would be a better choice. It's backers claim they'll be there for the long-term, and it has innovative concurrency constructs. As for Groovy, it appears to be dying. Oracle went to a lot of trouble to create Nashorn, a zippy Javascript bundled with Java 8, and you can bet they'll be promoting it heavily in the "scripting Java" space to dislodge Groovy. Grails is losing adoption bigtime, getting replaced by Node.js, Play!, Django, and even Rails. When Gradle upgrades to version 2, they'll likely bundle some other JVM languages for their API, e.g. Nashorn.
abenga 12y ago
Python 3, say?
- rspeer 12y ago
  Yeah, I don't understand the argument some people have, that Python 3 is bad because it's slightly different from Python 2 and a small amount of their code won't work, so that's why they're switching to a programming language where everything is different from Python 2 and none of their code will work.
dragonwriter 12y ago
> Since there still won't be a Python 2.8, I read this as the mainstream Python not evolving one bit for the next 6 years. No, what it is is "legacy Python 2.7 gets 5 more years where bugfixes that we expect certain major users of Python -- notably RedHat, which has 2.x bundled into releases that have long support terms -- to submit may be published to the world as bugfix (2.7.x) releases". The mainstream of Python development has been 3.x for years, and that line will continue to keep evolving.

by andr 12y ago

Since there still won't be a Python 2.8, I read this as the mainstream Python not evolving one bit for the next 6 years. For me, this would be grounds for moving to a different language.

antocv 12y ago

Groovy, Guile and Clojure.

jessaustin 12y ago
Guile? Really?
vorg 12y ago
> not evolving one bit for the next 6 years [...] would be grounds for moving to a different language I'd never heard of Guile until you mentioned it. I looks like Scheme. If moving to a lisp-like language, Clojure, which you mention, would be a better choice. It's backers claim they'll be there for the long-term, and it has innovative concurrency constructs. As for Groovy, it appears to be dying. Oracle went to a lot of trouble to create Nashorn, a zippy Javascript bundled with Java 8, and you can bet they'll be promoting it heavily in the "scripting Java" space to dislodge Groovy. Grails is losing adoption bigtime, getting replaced by Node.js, Play!, Django, and even Rails. When Gradle upgrades to version 2, they'll likely bundle some other JVM languages for their API, e.g. Nashorn.

abenga 12y ago

Python 3, say?

rspeer 12y ago
Yeah, I don't understand the argument some people have, that Python 3 is bad because it's slightly different from Python 2 and a small amount of their code won't work, so that's why they're switching to a programming language where everything is different from Python 2 and none of their code will work.

dragonwriter 12y ago

> Since there still won't be a Python 2.8, I read this as the mainstream Python not evolving one bit for the next 6 years. No, what it is is "legacy Python 2.7 gets 5 more years where bugfixes that we expect certain major users of Python -- notably RedHat, which has 2.x bundled into releases that have long support terms -- to submit may be published to the world as bugfix (2.7.x) releases". The mainstream of Python development has been 3.x for years, and that line will continue to keep evolving.