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TL;DR version: Invoice/accounts receivable managment was subpar and there have been large expenses. Now there's a liquidity problem. Not an uncommon problem in

by dtech 13y ago

TL;DR version: Invoice/accounts receivable managment was subpar and there have been large expenses. Now there's a liquidity problem. Not an uncommon problem in non-profits/voluntary organizations.

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- kevingadd 13y ago
  So you're arguing that Linux and Mozilla have no relation to the development of GNOME? The OS kernel that most GNOME installs run on, and the web browser used by a significant subset of GNOME users (that implicitly needs to interact well with GNOME & GTK), have no relation to GNOME? Really?
  - makomk 13y ago
    They certainly don't have the kind of relationship that could justify the GNOME Foundation running their women's outreach programs for them. GNOME's absolutely miniscule compared to both of them, in terms of money, developers, staff, users, everything. To put this in some perspective, the Mozilla Foundation alone has approximately 3 orders of magnitude more income than the GNOME Foundation, so it's no surprise the majority of GNOME foundation cash flow was for the Outreach Program for Women rather than for GNOME. I could understand if, say, Mozilla decided they wanted to help other open source organisations that were only tenuously related to them in this way because they can afford to, but the GNOME Foundation is simply too small to take on this kind of big project.
  - coldtea 13y ago
    >have no relation to GNOME? Really? Yes, they have no relation to GNOME. "A significant subset of GNOME users" running Firefox does not constitute a "relation to the development of GNOME". Neither does Linux being the "OS kernel that most GNOME installs run on". There's not much interroperability (or need for such) between them. The Gnome team develops GNOME, the kernel team develops Linux and the Mozilla team develops Firefox, and that is that. At best, the Mozilla folks tried at times to adapt to the default GNOME themes etc. Not much besides that. Now, Gnome and Gtk, that's a real development relation. Or Linux (kernel) and libc.

by dtech 13y ago

TL;DR version: Invoice/accounts receivable managment was subpar and there have been large expenses. Now there's a liquidity problem. Not an uncommon problem in non-profits/voluntary organizations.

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kevingadd 13y ago
So you're arguing that Linux and Mozilla have no relation to the development of GNOME? The OS kernel that most GNOME installs run on, and the web browser used by a significant subset of GNOME users (that implicitly needs to interact well with GNOME & GTK), have no relation to GNOME? Really?
- makomk 13y ago
  They certainly don't have the kind of relationship that could justify the GNOME Foundation running their women's outreach programs for them. GNOME's absolutely miniscule compared to both of them, in terms of money, developers, staff, users, everything. To put this in some perspective, the Mozilla Foundation alone has approximately 3 orders of magnitude more income than the GNOME Foundation, so it's no surprise the majority of GNOME foundation cash flow was for the Outreach Program for Women rather than for GNOME. I could understand if, say, Mozilla decided they wanted to help other open source organisations that were only tenuously related to them in this way because they can afford to, but the GNOME Foundation is simply too small to take on this kind of big project.
- coldtea 13y ago
  >have no relation to GNOME? Really? Yes, they have no relation to GNOME. "A significant subset of GNOME users" running Firefox does not constitute a "relation to the development of GNOME". Neither does Linux being the "OS kernel that most GNOME installs run on". There's not much interroperability (or need for such) between them. The Gnome team develops GNOME, the kernel team develops Linux and the Mozilla team develops Firefox, and that is that. At best, the Mozilla folks tried at times to adapt to the default GNOME themes etc. Not much besides that. Now, Gnome and Gtk, that's a real development relation. Or Linux (kernel) and libc.