Couldn't agree more. The only real difference between an engineer and a hobbyist is that one gets paid (sometimes hobbyists get paid too (gittip, etc)). Both

Couldn't agree more. The only real difference between an engineer and a hobbyist is that one gets paid (sometimes hobbyists get paid too (gittip, etc)). Both need to realize that engineering ethics of what they're involved in. I might need to turn in my hacker badge if I was ever issued one, but I don't support the completely anarchist view point of "screw everyone, it doesn't matter because it's legal" because there is a greater ethical obligation to serve the greater good. It gets real real fast when a pseudo-democracy buys a 0day to a popular open source library to target dissenters and have them shut up.