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I imagine it's less about time saved, and more about fun. Most people don't go downhill skiing to get somewhere.

nanidin 13y ago
Then why not speed on a track, or some other closed environment? I imagine that shooting guns at targets is fun too - but most people wouldn't find that to be an acceptable excuse for shooting guns at targets in a public park.
- sukuriant 13y ago
  It's not a part of the American culture so much. I think it should be. I also think speed limits (on highways) should be higher, or be condition-specific. ... and I think we should have better driver's ed in the States, and harsher penalties for drunk driving. But that's just me.
- saraid216 13y ago
  > Then why not speed on a track, or some other closed environment? Because freedom. > I imagine that shooting guns at targets is fun too - but most people wouldn't find that to be an acceptable excuse for shooting guns at targets in a public park. What do you think the "we use them to hunt" justification is for the American love of owning guns? The overwhelming majority of people who trot out this justification aren't depending on a good hunt for any real productive purpose; they go hunting because it's fun.
  - nanidin 13y ago
    I'm not saying there is anything wrong with driving fast or hunting/shooting guns - I'm just saying there is a context in which those activities are not acceptable, and that context is when you are acting unsafely and subjecting other people to unnecessary risk. Note when I say park, I mean a city park, not a state park or wildlife park or wherever hunting is actually permitted.
  - burntroots 13y ago
    because track days are expensive. considerably more so than an afternoon at the gun range.
sukuriant 13y ago
Which leads me to an important thought: it needs to be easier to find a place to play in your car. There need to be more raceways and race training. The United States needs a few https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring 's

Then why not speed on a track, or some other closed environment? I imagine that shooting guns at targets is fun too - but most people wouldn't find that to be an acceptable excuse for shooting guns at targets in a public park.

sukuriant 13y ago
It's not a part of the American culture so much. I think it should be. I also think speed limits (on highways) should be higher, or be condition-specific. ... and I think we should have better driver's ed in the States, and harsher penalties for drunk driving. But that's just me.
saraid216 13y ago
> Then why not speed on a track, or some other closed environment? Because freedom. > I imagine that shooting guns at targets is fun too - but most people wouldn't find that to be an acceptable excuse for shooting guns at targets in a public park. What do you think the "we use them to hunt" justification is for the American love of owning guns? The overwhelming majority of people who trot out this justification aren't depending on a good hunt for any real productive purpose; they go hunting because it's fun.
- nanidin 13y ago
  I'm not saying there is anything wrong with driving fast or hunting/shooting guns - I'm just saying there is a context in which those activities are not acceptable, and that context is when you are acting unsafely and subjecting other people to unnecessary risk. Note when I say park, I mean a city park, not a state park or wildlife park or wherever hunting is actually permitted.
- burntroots 13y ago
  because track days are expensive. considerably more so than an afternoon at the gun range.

sukuriant 13y ago

Which leads me to an important thought: it needs to be easier to find a place to play in your car. There need to be more raceways and race training. The United States needs a few https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring 's