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India and China are vast countries, the diversity should also take into account population/area of the country on which limits are enforced.

by bankim 13y ago

judk 13y ago
In which we learn that there is not such thing as non-bias. Whether de facto or de jure, there are always biases. Either a person chooses them, or nature chooses them. There is no universally "fair" distribution over a scarce commodity.
eshvk 13y ago
> India and China are vast countries, the diversity should also take into account population/area of the country on which limits are enforced. It is not clear to me how having a diverse country that is not dominated by immigrants from one or two ethnicities arrives from letting this happen. Or how it is fair to the guy from random tiny country X when he has to compete against two largest sources of immigrants to this country.
- mavelikara 13y ago
  > Or how it is fair to the guy from random tiny country X when he has to compete against two largest sources of immigrants to this country. Compete for what?
hatu 13y ago
It is a bit ridiculous that Iceland and China have the same caps.
- avar 13y ago
  Is there an overview of what the per-country caps are, and how long someone from a given country might expect to wait until they get a green card?
  - bradleyjg 13y ago
    The monthly visa bulletin: http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/law-and-policy/bulletin/2014/visa-bulletin-for-may-2014.html http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/law-and-policy...
  - anxrn 13y ago
    Applicants from any single 'country of chargeability' cannot exceed 7% of the total number of available employment-based green cards in a year [1]. In practice, someone from Iceland or Tuvalu can get an EB (category 2) visa in about a year, whereas the average for someone from India or China is more like 5-6 years [2]. [1] http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit [2] These rough numbers are from observations on http://www.trackitt.com http://www.trackitt.com, where applicants self-report application statistics
- sremani 13y ago
  The diversity argument is turned on its head - esp. when there is legislation to legalize "illegal/undocumented" workers who are mostly from Latin America and primarily from Mexico. Indians are not even 1% of US population. The Green Card caps per country is absolute joke.

India and China are vast countries, the diversity should also take into account population/area of the country on which limits are enforced.

by bankim 13y ago

India and China are vast countries, the diversity should also take into account population/area of the country on which limits are enforced.

judk 13y ago

In which we learn that there is not such thing as non-bias. Whether de facto or de jure, there are always biases. Either a person chooses them, or nature chooses them. There is no universally "fair" distribution over a scarce commodity.

eshvk 13y ago

> India and China are vast countries, the diversity should also take into account population/area of the country on which limits are enforced. It is not clear to me how having a diverse country that is not dominated by immigrants from one or two ethnicities arrives from letting this happen. Or how it is fair to the guy from random tiny country X when he has to compete against two largest sources of immigrants to this country.

mavelikara 13y ago
> Or how it is fair to the guy from random tiny country X when he has to compete against two largest sources of immigrants to this country. Compete for what?

hatu 13y ago

It is a bit ridiculous that Iceland and China have the same caps.

avar 13y ago
Is there an overview of what the per-country caps are, and how long someone from a given country might expect to wait until they get a green card?
- bradleyjg 13y ago
  The monthly visa bulletin: http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/law-and-policy/bulletin/2014/visa-bulletin-for-may-2014.html http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/law-and-policy...
- anxrn 13y ago
  Applicants from any single 'country of chargeability' cannot exceed 7% of the total number of available employment-based green cards in a year [1]. In practice, someone from Iceland or Tuvalu can get an EB (category 2) visa in about a year, whereas the average for someone from India or China is more like 5-6 years [2]. [1] http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit [2] These rough numbers are from observations on http://www.trackitt.com http://www.trackitt.com, where applicants self-report application statistics
sremani 13y ago
The diversity argument is turned on its head - esp. when there is legislation to legalize "illegal/undocumented" workers who are mostly from Latin America and primarily from Mexico. Indians are not even 1% of US population. The Green Card caps per country is absolute joke.