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World != USA only. Just move somewhere in Europe, you have like dozens of different flavours ;)

by pawelkomarnicki 13y ago

JulianMorrison 13y ago
Avoid anywhere too close to Russia, it might not stay "in Europe". Instead it will "always have been part of Russia".
- jessaustin 13y ago
  The Russian government probably wants disgruntled Russians to move to places like that. The Russian fertility rate isn't high, but it's higher than all its nearest neighbors, and Empire is a long-term game.
  - mtrimpe 13y ago
    And as Kasparov likes to say: You don't need smart people to run a petrol state. Brain-drain is bad for Russia but good for Putin.
- huhtenberg 13y ago
  You should really cut down on your TV time. Parroting stuff that comes out of that box makes you look .. I don't know .. lacking your own basic intelligence? Do you seriously think Russia will invade Ukraine or Baltic republics? What f#cking for? Who needs to annex countries that are already knee deep in debt, while pissing off the rest of the world? This makes no sense. Just use your gray matter a bit.
  - stephenr 13y ago
    > Do you seriously think Russia will invade Ukraine or Baltic republics Have you not been paying attention? This has already happened.
    - huhtenberg 13y ago
      Way to quote by stripping away the context. Have you not been paying attention too? To things like history of Crimea or its geographical location, for example? The question remains - what will invading Ukraine, strapped in debt and with nothing to offer, give the invaders to be? The brainless hysteria surrounding this situation is absolutely ridiculous. It's twice as ridiculous if you'd remember that Russians and Ukrainians generally treat each other as close relatives. Annoying at times, but still same blood basically. There are radical nationalists on both sides, but that's marginal. Just look at how Ukrainian team was welcomed at the Olympics - with an ovation. And how things were unfolding in Crimea - with flash-bang grenades and blanks. It's not about Russia threatening Ukraine. It's about Russia paying back US and EU for stirring shit in Ukraine to drive it away from Russia. This is all macro-political. Ukraine is just a casualty caught in a cross-fire. -- Have I been paying attention? Yes, I have been. Have you though?
      - stephenr 13y ago
        > To things like history of Crimea or its geographical location, for example? If history and geography trump the current citizens and laws, then the yanks should all fuck off back where they came from and leave it to the native americans and the mexicans, no? > Have you though? Enough to realise that something is fishy. Russian troops invaded crimea, surrounded the Ukrainian military bases, and then declared it was all "legit" because a referendum had 96% voting in favour of joining Russia, despite polls from previous years showing 34% support. All but 2 members of the UN Security Council voted to declare the referendum invalid - it was only defeated because Russia has veto power. Your argument is that Russia doesn't get anything out of this. Like Putin is a completely rational guy who does shit because it makes sense, rather than because he's a whack job who pines for the "glory" of the USSR.
        dragonwriter 13y ago
        > If history and geography trump the current citizens and laws, then the yanks should all fuck off back where they came from and leave it to the native americans and the mexicans, no? Just the former. Because, you know, the latter, inasmuch as they are distinct from the former, have the same problem as "the yanks".

World != USA only. Just move somewhere in Europe, you have like dozens of different flavours ;)

JulianMorrison 13y ago

Avoid anywhere too close to Russia, it might not stay "in Europe". Instead it will "always have been part of Russia".

jessaustin 13y ago
The Russian government probably wants disgruntled Russians to move to places like that. The Russian fertility rate isn't high, but it's higher than all its nearest neighbors, and Empire is a long-term game.
- mtrimpe 13y ago
  And as Kasparov likes to say: You don't need smart people to run a petrol state. Brain-drain is bad for Russia but good for Putin.
huhtenberg 13y ago
You should really cut down on your TV time. Parroting stuff that comes out of that box makes you look .. I don't know .. lacking your own basic intelligence? Do you seriously think Russia will invade Ukraine or Baltic republics? What f#cking for? Who needs to annex countries that are already knee deep in debt, while pissing off the rest of the world? This makes no sense. Just use your gray matter a bit.
- stephenr 13y ago
  > Do you seriously think Russia will invade Ukraine or Baltic republics Have you not been paying attention? This has already happened.
  - huhtenberg 13y ago
    Way to quote by stripping away the context. Have you not been paying attention too? To things like history of Crimea or its geographical location, for example? The question remains - what will invading Ukraine, strapped in debt and with nothing to offer, give the invaders to be? The brainless hysteria surrounding this situation is absolutely ridiculous. It's twice as ridiculous if you'd remember that Russians and Ukrainians generally treat each other as close relatives. Annoying at times, but still same blood basically. There are radical nationalists on both sides, but that's marginal. Just look at how Ukrainian team was welcomed at the Olympics - with an ovation. And how things were unfolding in Crimea - with flash-bang grenades and blanks. It's not about Russia threatening Ukraine. It's about Russia paying back US and EU for stirring shit in Ukraine to drive it away from Russia. This is all macro-political. Ukraine is just a casualty caught in a cross-fire. -- Have I been paying attention? Yes, I have been. Have you though?
    - stephenr 13y ago
      > To things like history of Crimea or its geographical location, for example? If history and geography trump the current citizens and laws, then the yanks should all fuck off back where they came from and leave it to the native americans and the mexicans, no? > Have you though? Enough to realise that something is fishy. Russian troops invaded crimea, surrounded the Ukrainian military bases, and then declared it was all "legit" because a referendum had 96% voting in favour of joining Russia, despite polls from previous years showing 34% support. All but 2 members of the UN Security Council voted to declare the referendum invalid - it was only defeated because Russia has veto power. Your argument is that Russia doesn't get anything out of this. Like Putin is a completely rational guy who does shit because it makes sense, rather than because he's a whack job who pines for the "glory" of the USSR.
      - dragonwriter 13y ago
        > If history and geography trump the current citizens and laws, then the yanks should all fuck off back where they came from and leave it to the native americans and the mexicans, no? Just the former. Because, you know, the latter, inasmuch as they are distinct from the former, have the same problem as "the yanks".