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I've used Comixology and Marvel Unlimited before. Marvel Unlimited is a travesty on Android tablets, which is really unfortunate, because a subscription service

by cwal37 13y ago

I've used Comixology and Marvel Unlimited before. Marvel Unlimited is a travesty on Android tablets, which is really unfortunate, because a subscription service like that is probably the only way I will consistently read comics. Comixology's app is certainly better, but it's tough to shell out the money for something I could be done reading 5-10 minutes later. It'd be nice if they could get together a subscription service like Netflix, but for the smaller publishing houses like Image, since DC and Marvel will obviously go their own way.

k-mcgrady 13y ago
>> "it's tough to shell out the money for something I could be done reading 5-10 minutes later." Haven't comic book readers done this for decades? I'm not big into comics but I was under the impression they are the sort of thing people read again (i.e. people don't just read once and delete).
- cwal37 13y ago
  I'm peculiar because I didn't really grow up reading comics, but was introduced to them near the end of high school. I was already a voracious reader as I had grown up constantly ensconced in books (my parents' house has a library), and I started with collections of old Marvel series, so like, the first 20-40 issues of Fantastic Four, or The Avengers, or whatever in single volume. I'd read 5 years of a series in a single night. I just enjoyed reading them. Even in the big superhero books today I find that I have to force myself to look at the art most of the time because I can almost get all my visual stimulation from text. This is less of the case in smaller, more interesting titles, but I still find myself speeding through, and I almost never re-read them.
- cruise02 13y ago
  Yes, but before you had a collectible comic. The digital copies really don't have any secondary market value. That said, I love reading comics and I use Comixology heavily. I just usually wait until I can get about 50 issues of a title in one of their 99 cent sales and splurge for a good month's worth of reading.
  - 2muchcoffeeman 13y ago
    I was reading comics during the 90s collectable craze. It was all speculation and ultimately hurt the comic industry. So I think devaluing the physical comic is a good thing. I agree with getting huge chunks of a series though. But that doesn't always work since Marvel and DC are still big on story arcs that cross over several titles. Following a single title often leads to incomplete stories.
    - pdenya 13y ago
      As a former comic reader, owning a physical comic is like owning a book. It's satisfying but convenience will win for most of the market.
      - 2muchcoffeeman 13y ago
        The graphic novels are like books to me. But getting the monthly titles was more about going to the comic book store with friends and hanging out (and speculating about their value). The comic book store I used to go too closed down a few years ago. I'm sad to see it go, but the industry is going to have to change to survive.
    - cruise02 13y ago
      Yeah, you do have to be crossover-aware before you pick up 50 issues of a title. I passed on an X-Men sale they ran a while back because I remember having to drop that title every summer when I was a kid. They were doing the sale every week, and it's always something different. I've picked up huge continuous runs of Deadpool, Daredevil, and the Walking Dead.
  - bobbyi_settv 13y ago
    For current-ish Marvel comics, rather than/ in addition to waiting for Comixology sales, you can use the comiccodes subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/comiccodes/ http://www.reddit.com/r/comiccodes/ The way it works is that currently almost all physical Marvel issues and some hardcover collections come with a code that can be redeemed for the digital copy. People who have a physical copy often don't need the digital copy too, so /r/comiccodes/ is a marketplace where people sell those codes. The going price tends to be $1/ issue and most people take Paypal, although some prefer Comixology gifts or Amazon e-giftcards or whatever.
egypturnash 13y ago
I'm an independent comics creator who does graphic novels that take a while to read, not single issues. I'm also someone who spent all day Thursday trying to get my GN into a .mobi, without much success: https://vine.co/v/M5M3lLEwz6E https://vine.co/v/M5M3lLEwz6E I am really happy about this. Because perhaps it will mean I will soon be able to just upload a .pdf of my comic to Amazon and not worry about anything beyond how much to charge for it.
- cwal37 13y ago
  That's a super excellent point! I wasn't really thinking about small individuals, as I'm not really very deep into comics. I just happen to love reading fiction and tend to devour whatever I stumble into. Best of luck to you, this sounds like it could be a real boon.
- celerity 13y ago
  Publishing on Amazon is currently quite horrible, so I am sorry to say that if you use history as a guide, then you are in bad luck. For example, current publishers get less money if they use bigger data. The result is blurry pictures on hi-res screens. Awful policy.
  - sadfnjksdf 13y ago
    I've not had a problem with the comics we've gotten from Amazon. If anything, the reader on the Kindle Fire HDX takes a little getting used to because you need to click to zoom to read a good bit of it. I've tried reading them on my laptop but can't get into it; I can't read books on a horizontal screen. Things will be much better with electronic paper, so it will be like a comic book again. Sure, I could buy an actual comic book, but what fun is that?
- bobbyi_settv 13y ago
  A big part of what makes Comixology great is how well their Guided Mode works. That requires more than just a .pdf of the full pages.
rat87 13y ago
The Marvel Unlimited webapp is even worse.
bobbyi_settv 13y ago
> Marvel Unlimited is a travesty on Android tablets I've made some big improvements to it. Due to my frustration with the Android app, I used it as a learning opportunity to find out how to take an Android app, decompile it, modify it and recompile. I've fixed the fact that on my tablet (Nexus 10), the pages weren't shown full screen, which made the app useless. I've fixed the issue where it sometimes falls into "two page" reading mode when switching screen orientations. I've added the ability to tap the screen edges to move back/ forward a page like in Comixology and ever reasonable CBR reader app. I've fixed some other miscellaneous bugs. After these changes, I'm a happy user of the MU service and have been using it regularly. I just finished Deadpool Killustrated and the first six issues of Kelly Sue DeConnick's Captain Marvel. I'd like to get my modifications to others, but I'm not sure how. I can't post the source or the apk for my modified version of the app (I call it "the All-New Marvel Unlimited") because it is a modified version of Marvel's app that I don't have the right to distribute. I've been thinking about trying to put together a project on github that would just contain diffs to turn MU into ANMU and a script to pull the apk for MU from your tablet, uninstall it from your tablet, decompile it, apply the diffs and re-install it. This would require enabling USB debugging on the tablet and having the Android SDK on your computer plus some other Android tools, which is going to make it too difficult for non-technical comic fans, even if I put a lot of work into trying to make the installer "easy" to run everywhere (including Windows). Is there a better way to handle this or any existing work I can build upon?
- cwal37 13y ago
  You're doing great work it sounds like. I also have Nexus 10 (you're the first person I've ever heard or read mentioning owning one other than myself), so you understand my pain in trying to use that piece of junk. Unfortunately, while I am someone who would love, love, love to have your version of the app, I might be one of the worst people on HN to ask about how to handle/distribute it, as I'm an environmental scientist/energy economist. Python and Matlab are as far as my day-to-day programming go, although I have wanted to work on an Android app for a while.
  - bobbyi_settv 13y ago

by cwal37 13y ago

k-mcgrady 13y ago

>> "it's tough to shell out the money for something I could be done reading 5-10 minutes later." Haven't comic book readers done this for decades? I'm not big into comics but I was under the impression they are the sort of thing people read again (i.e. people don't just read once and delete).

cwal37 13y ago
I'm peculiar because I didn't really grow up reading comics, but was introduced to them near the end of high school. I was already a voracious reader as I had grown up constantly ensconced in books (my parents' house has a library), and I started with collections of old Marvel series, so like, the first 20-40 issues of Fantastic Four, or The Avengers, or whatever in single volume. I'd read 5 years of a series in a single night. I just enjoyed reading them. Even in the big superhero books today I find that I have to force myself to look at the art most of the time because I can almost get all my visual stimulation from text. This is less of the case in smaller, more interesting titles, but I still find myself speeding through, and I almost never re-read them.
cruise02 13y ago
Yes, but before you had a collectible comic. The digital copies really don't have any secondary market value. That said, I love reading comics and I use Comixology heavily. I just usually wait until I can get about 50 issues of a title in one of their 99 cent sales and splurge for a good month's worth of reading.
- 2muchcoffeeman 13y ago
  I was reading comics during the 90s collectable craze. It was all speculation and ultimately hurt the comic industry. So I think devaluing the physical comic is a good thing. I agree with getting huge chunks of a series though. But that doesn't always work since Marvel and DC are still big on story arcs that cross over several titles. Following a single title often leads to incomplete stories.
  - pdenya 13y ago
    As a former comic reader, owning a physical comic is like owning a book. It's satisfying but convenience will win for most of the market.
    - 2muchcoffeeman 13y ago
      The graphic novels are like books to me. But getting the monthly titles was more about going to the comic book store with friends and hanging out (and speculating about their value). The comic book store I used to go too closed down a few years ago. I'm sad to see it go, but the industry is going to have to change to survive.
  - cruise02 13y ago
    Yeah, you do have to be crossover-aware before you pick up 50 issues of a title. I passed on an X-Men sale they ran a while back because I remember having to drop that title every summer when I was a kid. They were doing the sale every week, and it's always something different. I've picked up huge continuous runs of Deadpool, Daredevil, and the Walking Dead.
- bobbyi_settv 13y ago
  For current-ish Marvel comics, rather than/ in addition to waiting for Comixology sales, you can use the comiccodes subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/comiccodes/ http://www.reddit.com/r/comiccodes/ The way it works is that currently almost all physical Marvel issues and some hardcover collections come with a code that can be redeemed for the digital copy. People who have a physical copy often don't need the digital copy too, so /r/comiccodes/ is a marketplace where people sell those codes. The going price tends to be $1/ issue and most people take Paypal, although some prefer Comixology gifts or Amazon e-giftcards or whatever.

egypturnash 13y ago

I'm an independent comics creator who does graphic novels that take a while to read, not single issues. I'm also someone who spent all day Thursday trying to get my GN into a .mobi, without much success: https://vine.co/v/M5M3lLEwz6E https://vine.co/v/M5M3lLEwz6E I am really happy about this. Because perhaps it will mean I will soon be able to just upload a .pdf of my comic to Amazon and not worry about anything beyond how much to charge for it.

cwal37 13y ago
That's a super excellent point! I wasn't really thinking about small individuals, as I'm not really very deep into comics. I just happen to love reading fiction and tend to devour whatever I stumble into. Best of luck to you, this sounds like it could be a real boon.
celerity 13y ago
Publishing on Amazon is currently quite horrible, so I am sorry to say that if you use history as a guide, then you are in bad luck. For example, current publishers get less money if they use bigger data. The result is blurry pictures on hi-res screens. Awful policy.
- sadfnjksdf 13y ago
  I've not had a problem with the comics we've gotten from Amazon. If anything, the reader on the Kindle Fire HDX takes a little getting used to because you need to click to zoom to read a good bit of it. I've tried reading them on my laptop but can't get into it; I can't read books on a horizontal screen. Things will be much better with electronic paper, so it will be like a comic book again. Sure, I could buy an actual comic book, but what fun is that?
bobbyi_settv 13y ago
A big part of what makes Comixology great is how well their Guided Mode works. That requires more than just a .pdf of the full pages.

rat87 13y ago

The Marvel Unlimited webapp is even worse.

bobbyi_settv 13y ago

> Marvel Unlimited is a travesty on Android tablets I've made some big improvements to it. Due to my frustration with the Android app, I used it as a learning opportunity to find out how to take an Android app, decompile it, modify it and recompile. I've fixed the fact that on my tablet (Nexus 10), the pages weren't shown full screen, which made the app useless. I've fixed the issue where it sometimes falls into "two page" reading mode when switching screen orientations. I've added the ability to tap the screen edges to move back/ forward a page like in Comixology and ever reasonable CBR reader app. I've fixed some other miscellaneous bugs. After these changes, I'm a happy user of the MU service and have been using it regularly. I just finished Deadpool Killustrated and the first six issues of Kelly Sue DeConnick's Captain Marvel. I'd like to get my modifications to others, but I'm not sure how. I can't post the source or the apk for my modified version of the app (I call it "the All-New Marvel Unlimited") because it is a modified version of Marvel's app that I don't have the right to distribute. I've been thinking about trying to put together a project on github that would just contain diffs to turn MU into ANMU and a script to pull the apk for MU from your tablet, uninstall it from your tablet, decompile it, apply the diffs and re-install it. This would require enabling USB debugging on the tablet and having the Android SDK on your computer plus some other Android tools, which is going to make it too difficult for non-technical comic fans, even if I put a lot of work into trying to make the installer "easy" to run everywhere (including Windows). Is there a better way to handle this or any existing work I can build upon?

cwal37 13y ago
You're doing great work it sounds like. I also have Nexus 10 (you're the first person I've ever heard or read mentioning owning one other than myself), so you understand my pain in trying to use that piece of junk. Unfortunately, while I am someone who would love, love, love to have your version of the app, I might be one of the worst people on HN to ask about how to handle/distribute it, as I'm an environmental scientist/energy economist. Python and Matlab are as far as my day-to-day programming go, although I have wanted to work on an Android app for a while.
- bobbyi_settv 13y ago