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9 startups or 9 websites?

markbao 17y ago
I've had my fair share of websites. I don't consider, for example, http://speakhq.com http://speakhq.com a startup. At all. Whereas I do consider http://ramamia.com http://ramamia.com a startup, and http://tickrtalk.com http://tickrtalk.com a startup (funded and in dev), and http://classleaf.com http://classleaf.com a startup. I can change that to 8 if Avecora (which did previous web stuff, but now is developing a mobile dev) doesn't count as one, since it's in development. In fact. I'll list them and try to qualify them, chronologically sorted. DebateWare - sold enterprise event mgmt software. sponsoring debate event in bos in oct Avecora - doing a mobile device in dev Avecora OnDemand - CRM/Project Management app. only connected to Avecora by name. market sucked. Cadmium - social advertising network. used facebook data to target ads. decent revenue, closed down later b/c market was :/. Student Concourse - was at WebInno 22. Lots of users but bad retention rate. Closed down. FB Idol: >15,000 Facebook users and very active. monetized via ads, with good money. said screw it and sold it. Ramamia: with hnuser:jasonlbaptiste. few thousand users, in public beta. tons of gigs of photos. launching next month. TickrTalk: in dev. funded by UPenn Weiss Tech Fund. Classleaf: sales force started making calls last week. software. it's selling. Adaptance: in dev: advanced ad network built on a complex algorithm combining behavioral + contextual + 3 other targeting metrics. Actually, that's 10, but remove Avecora OnDemand and there's the nine.
- fallentimes 17y ago
  Yeah I was more curious than anything. I don't really know what the definition of a startup is, but I know it's certainly different than a website. HN in general tends to have a very liberal definition of the word. Side projects that never made a dime or had more than a few hundreds visitors are rightly or wrongly considered startups rather frequently. The word "startup" is so overused that like the terms "breaking news" and "celebrity" it doesn't really mean much anymore. Website -> Startup News -> Breaking News Reality TV Appearance -> Celebrity
  - markbao 17y ago
    Oh, I definitely agree with you there. I hate the ASK HN: REVIEW MY URL SHORTENER STARTUP and related.

I've had my fair share of websites. I don't consider, for example, http://speakhq.com http://speakhq.com a startup. At all. Whereas I do consider http://ramamia.com http://ramamia.com a startup, and http://tickrtalk.com http://tickrtalk.com a startup (funded and in dev), and http://classleaf.com http://classleaf.com a startup. I can change that to 8 if Avecora (which did previous web stuff, but now is developing a mobile dev) doesn't count as one, since it's in development. In fact. I'll list them and try to qualify them, chronologically sorted. DebateWare - sold enterprise event mgmt software. sponsoring debate event in bos in oct Avecora - doing a mobile device in dev Avecora OnDemand - CRM/Project Management app. only connected to Avecora by name. market sucked. Cadmium - social advertising network. used facebook data to target ads. decent revenue, closed down later b/c market was :/. Student Concourse - was at WebInno 22. Lots of users but bad retention rate. Closed down. FB Idol: >15,000 Facebook users and very active. monetized via ads, with good money. said screw it and sold it. Ramamia: with hnuser:jasonlbaptiste. few thousand users, in public beta. tons of gigs of photos. launching next month. TickrTalk: in dev. funded by UPenn Weiss Tech Fund. Classleaf: sales force started making calls last week. software. it's selling. Adaptance: in dev: advanced ad network built on a complex algorithm combining behavioral + contextual + 3 other targeting metrics. Actually, that's 10, but remove Avecora OnDemand and there's the nine.

fallentimes 17y ago
Yeah I was more curious than anything. I don't really know what the definition of a startup is, but I know it's certainly different than a website. HN in general tends to have a very liberal definition of the word. Side projects that never made a dime or had more than a few hundreds visitors are rightly or wrongly considered startups rather frequently. The word "startup" is so overused that like the terms "breaking news" and "celebrity" it doesn't really mean much anymore. Website -> Startup News -> Breaking News Reality TV Appearance -> Celebrity
- markbao 17y ago
  Oh, I definitely agree with you there. I hate the ASK HN: REVIEW MY URL SHORTENER STARTUP and related.