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This was a company with under 50 employees who had a full time general counsel. They had no lines of business that were remotely related to law. Maybe that's n

This was a company with under 50 employees who had a full time general counsel. They had no lines of business that were remotely related to law. Maybe that's not abnormal but I had never, and have never since, seen a small company who didn't outsource their GC needs.

tptacek 13y ago
I think the general pattern I'm referring to is: * Candidate inbound * Has presumably-unenforceable noncompete * Prospective employer made aware of noncompete * Prospective employer concerned that former employer might make a claim that the hiring process constituted knowing interference with a contract, and that that claim might be colorable even if the noncompete had no teeth. * No hire
- lawnchair_larry 13y ago
  I know of at least one company (Microsoft) that goes the extra mile and stipulates in your non-compete that you must show every future employer the non-compete that you signed. It would seem like that is only in there because Microsoft has very intimidating teeth. I also heard a rumor that when Google takes their talent, they send them down to the bay area for 18 months to dodge WA's non-compete friendly laws. But I'm a bit skeptical of that one unless perhaps it's a VP or something.
  - dredmorbius 13y ago
    Microsoft has successfully enforced its non-competes against at least two California firms, Saleseforce and Google: "The inherent unfairness of employee non-compete agreements: Judge rules former Microsoft executive can't take new Salesforce job" http://www.itworld.com/legal/138182/inherent-unfairness-employee-non-compete-agreements http://www.itworld.com/legal/138182/inherent-unfairness-empl... "Microsoft Googles 'Non-Compete Agreement'" http://www.searchnewz.com/microsoft-googles-non-compete-agreement-2005-07 http://www.searchnewz.com/microsoft-googles-non-compete-agre... The maker of Windows and the Xbox has filed suit over Google’s hiring of a former Microsoft executive. Google hired Kai-Fu Lee, formerly the corporate VP of Microsoft’s Interactive Services Division, to run Google’s China operations.
    - lawnchair_larry 13y ago
      Wow, so it would seem that one can't simply move out of state...or even out of the country. That's just wrong.

tptacek 13y ago

I think the general pattern I'm referring to is: * Candidate inbound * Has presumably-unenforceable noncompete * Prospective employer made aware of noncompete * Prospective employer concerned that former employer might make a claim that the hiring process constituted knowing interference with a contract, and that that claim might be colorable even if the noncompete had no teeth. * No hire

lawnchair_larry 13y ago
I know of at least one company (Microsoft) that goes the extra mile and stipulates in your non-compete that you must show every future employer the non-compete that you signed. It would seem like that is only in there because Microsoft has very intimidating teeth. I also heard a rumor that when Google takes their talent, they send them down to the bay area for 18 months to dodge WA's non-compete friendly laws. But I'm a bit skeptical of that one unless perhaps it's a VP or something.
- dredmorbius 13y ago
  Microsoft has successfully enforced its non-competes against at least two California firms, Saleseforce and Google: "The inherent unfairness of employee non-compete agreements: Judge rules former Microsoft executive can't take new Salesforce job" http://www.itworld.com/legal/138182/inherent-unfairness-employee-non-compete-agreements http://www.itworld.com/legal/138182/inherent-unfairness-empl... "Microsoft Googles 'Non-Compete Agreement'" http://www.searchnewz.com/microsoft-googles-non-compete-agreement-2005-07 http://www.searchnewz.com/microsoft-googles-non-compete-agre... The maker of Windows and the Xbox has filed suit over Google’s hiring of a former Microsoft executive. Google hired Kai-Fu Lee, formerly the corporate VP of Microsoft’s Interactive Services Division, to run Google’s China operations.
  - lawnchair_larry 13y ago
    Wow, so it would seem that one can't simply move out of state...or even out of the country. That's just wrong.