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I know right? It's like you have to have your head in the sand to not see the differences between the Bush and Obama administrations. I made a list a while back

by kolbe 13y ago

I know right? It's like you have to have your head in the sand to not see the differences between the Bush and Obama administrations. I made a list a while back to give people an idea of the real differences between them. -Likes beer and sports: both Obama and Bush -Spends money the US doesn't have: both -Directs Taxpayers' Money to Special Interests: both -Supports Irresponsible Deficits: both -Grants Taxpayer-Funded Corporate Bailouts: both Disregards the Constitution via: -Guantanamo Bay Detentions: both -The Patriot Act: both Fails to React to Domestic Disasters such as: -Hurricane Katrina: only Bush -Nashville Floods: only Obama Supports NATO-led Killings in: -Kosovo: only Bush -Afghanistan: both -Libya: only Obama -Liberia: both -Pakistan: both -Supports US Occupation of Iraq: both

Crito 13y ago
> -Likes beer and sports: both Obama and Bush Probably technically true, though Bush is a recovering alcoholic and claims that he hasn't touched alcohol in decades.
chrisgd 13y ago
The US prints its own money, it will always have enough. The question is whether inflation eats away its value.
- woogle 13y ago
  Wrong. You should read further US money processes topic, you'll be surprised.
  - chrisgd 13y ago
    Right, like when Delta ran out of frequent flier miles.
- kolbe 13y ago
  The US's monetary base is $3.8T. Total outstanding public debt is $17.5T.[1][2] If the US government were to print $17.5T in cash to cover their liability, it's not even a question that it would hurt every American with exposure to the value of the dollar. Debt is debt, and it has to be paid in the future. Every trillion borrowed today is not only a trillion we will not be able to borrow in the future, but also a trillion*exp(rt) that we will have to put towards paying debt back, rather than spending on our future needs. Printing money may sound like it's some meaningless and magical action, but it's not. Printing takes the money from people who have cash exposure. Taxing takes money from people more directly. Stealing from other countries via war takes the money from another source. But it has to be paid back in some way, Debt is debt, despite how much politicians make you want to believe otherwise so they can spend your future now. [1] https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE [2] http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
ossreality 13y ago
I'm sorry but this is bullshit. If this is your view of the differences between Obama and Bush than one of three things are true: 1. You're being intentionally dishonest. 2. You're not American. 3. Your unempathic, a bit of an ass, and probably extremely privileged.

by kolbe 13y ago

Crito 13y ago

> -Likes beer and sports: both Obama and Bush Probably technically true, though Bush is a recovering alcoholic and claims that he hasn't touched alcohol in decades.

chrisgd 13y ago

The US prints its own money, it will always have enough. The question is whether inflation eats away its value.

woogle 13y ago
Wrong. You should read further US money processes topic, you'll be surprised.
- chrisgd 13y ago
  Right, like when Delta ran out of frequent flier miles.
kolbe 13y ago
The US's monetary base is $3.8T. Total outstanding public debt is $17.5T.[1][2] If the US government were to print $17.5T in cash to cover their liability, it's not even a question that it would hurt every American with exposure to the value of the dollar. Debt is debt, and it has to be paid in the future. Every trillion borrowed today is not only a trillion we will not be able to borrow in the future, but also a trillion*exp(rt) that we will have to put towards paying debt back, rather than spending on our future needs. Printing money may sound like it's some meaningless and magical action, but it's not. Printing takes the money from people who have cash exposure. Taxing takes money from people more directly. Stealing from other countries via war takes the money from another source. But it has to be paid back in some way, Debt is debt, despite how much politicians make you want to believe otherwise so they can spend your future now. [1] https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE [2] http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

ossreality 13y ago

I'm sorry but this is bullshit. If this is your view of the differences between Obama and Bush than one of three things are true: 1. You're being intentionally dishonest. 2. You're not American. 3. Your unempathic, a bit of an ass, and probably extremely privileged.