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I was wondering how long this would take. Thoughtcrime is here. The quest for ideological purity is kneecapping our future. Shutting out half of the brainpool b

I was wondering how long this would take. Thoughtcrime is here. The quest for ideological purity is kneecapping our future. Shutting out half of the brainpool because they hold opposing views about disconnected topics is a recipe for societal failure.

ekianjo 13y ago
Well, what happened at Mozilla was certainly "Thoughtcrime" (just happened to be on the unpopular part of the spectrum, if it were 20 years ago nobody would have said anything) but Rice is something different altogether. Her hands are not clean, if you know what I mean.
gregd 13y ago
Interesting, since Condoleeza Rice seems to be the very definition of Thought Police. Her quest for ideological purity resulted in hundreds of thousands of people being killed or maimed.
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  - gregd 13y ago
    Choosing not to consume a product based on the actions of a board member, is hardly imitating her, unless of course you're telling me that every time someone drops Dropbox, God kills a kitten...
- talmand 13y ago
  I require sources to prove your claim of "Her quest for ideological purity". I already know of the Thought Police claims so I don't require those.
  - gregd 13y ago
    I.R.A.Q.
    - talmand 13y ago
      That's not an adequate source as it implies nothing in terms of my request. If that's all it takes then will you agree with me that the current administration and its members, present and past, have been conducting a quest for ideological purity in Afghanistan and neighboring areas? Therefore none of them should hold a job of any significance now or in the future?
      - gregd 13y ago
        I'm really not at all interested in providing you a source nor arguing with you about who should hold a job or not. Draw your own damn conclusions on the information that is already public knowledge.
        talmand 13y ago
        I apologize. Once again I made the mistake of thinking I was having a civil discussion about a topic and asking for more information. Again, I apologize for giving the impression I disagreed on the matter even though I never stated my position one way or other. Based on other responses throughout this topic I'll call it a day on the matter.
bsaul 13y ago
I couldn't agree more. We have a very easy task identifying right-wing style totalitarism, but apparently sillicon valley has a blind eye when it's coming from its left.
- vdaniuk 13y ago
  Soooo, putting public pressure on a company that is employing a very controversial politician who is linked to war deaths, mass surveillance and torture is left-wing totalitarianism. Care to explain yourself?
  - bsaul 13y ago
    Listen, war means death. Counter-terrorism means spying and surveillance, and unfortunately very often, torture. Those are things a state does and has always been doing for the last 3000 years. The fact that we know about it, that we think about it as grown up, that we are trying to do otherwise whenever we can, and choose to prevent abuse is what makes us unique as a democratie. Now please, let me laugh at those people in the valley that wants to pretend that they have some sort of political view because they are boycotting dropbox. You may think the war in Iraq was a strategic mistake, or was useless, but don't try to pretend that Mrs Rice is the equivalent of some south american fascist and that corrupts whatever she touches. That's just a total lack of respect for the people that truely lived under those regimes.
    - vdaniuk 13y ago
      The states of Sweden, Denmark, Holland, Finland, Belgium, Norway do no such things. US, China, Russia and others on the other hand do. So don't feed me this 3000 years crap. US is not trying to do otherwise, Rice wasn't trying to do otherwise. Dropbox board, Dropbox top management lost all my trust as soon as they agreed to work with the person responsible for lots of human suffering. It's simple really, its about the character of people running dropbox.
      - bsaul 13y ago
itstriz 13y ago
Since when is running a boycott campaign a "quest for ideological purity" or enforcing "thoughtcrime"? This doesn't seem like it's about ideology or what sort of things Rice thinks. It's about people being tortured and killed and her part in that. It's about actual crime not thought crime. She should be held accountable for her actions and making her a pariah in various communities is one small way of doing that.
saturdaysaint 13y ago
I mean, "actioncrime" is closer to what's being alleged here. So, "crime".

ekianjo 13y ago

Well, what happened at Mozilla was certainly "Thoughtcrime" (just happened to be on the unpopular part of the spectrum, if it were 20 years ago nobody would have said anything) but Rice is something different altogether. Her hands are not clean, if you know what I mean.

gregd 13y ago

Interesting, since Condoleeza Rice seems to be the very definition of Thought Police. Her quest for ideological purity resulted in hundreds of thousands of people being killed or maimed.

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- gregd 13y ago
  Choosing not to consume a product based on the actions of a board member, is hardly imitating her, unless of course you're telling me that every time someone drops Dropbox, God kills a kitten...
talmand 13y ago
I require sources to prove your claim of "Her quest for ideological purity". I already know of the Thought Police claims so I don't require those.
- gregd 13y ago
  I.R.A.Q.
  - talmand 13y ago
    That's not an adequate source as it implies nothing in terms of my request. If that's all it takes then will you agree with me that the current administration and its members, present and past, have been conducting a quest for ideological purity in Afghanistan and neighboring areas? Therefore none of them should hold a job of any significance now or in the future?
    - gregd 13y ago
      I'm really not at all interested in providing you a source nor arguing with you about who should hold a job or not. Draw your own damn conclusions on the information that is already public knowledge.
      - talmand 13y ago
        I apologize. Once again I made the mistake of thinking I was having a civil discussion about a topic and asking for more information. Again, I apologize for giving the impression I disagreed on the matter even though I never stated my position one way or other. Based on other responses throughout this topic I'll call it a day on the matter.

bsaul 13y ago

I couldn't agree more. We have a very easy task identifying right-wing style totalitarism, but apparently sillicon valley has a blind eye when it's coming from its left.

vdaniuk 13y ago
Soooo, putting public pressure on a company that is employing a very controversial politician who is linked to war deaths, mass surveillance and torture is left-wing totalitarianism. Care to explain yourself?
- bsaul 13y ago
  Listen, war means death. Counter-terrorism means spying and surveillance, and unfortunately very often, torture. Those are things a state does and has always been doing for the last 3000 years. The fact that we know about it, that we think about it as grown up, that we are trying to do otherwise whenever we can, and choose to prevent abuse is what makes us unique as a democratie. Now please, let me laugh at those people in the valley that wants to pretend that they have some sort of political view because they are boycotting dropbox. You may think the war in Iraq was a strategic mistake, or was useless, but don't try to pretend that Mrs Rice is the equivalent of some south american fascist and that corrupts whatever she touches. That's just a total lack of respect for the people that truely lived under those regimes.
  - vdaniuk 13y ago
    The states of Sweden, Denmark, Holland, Finland, Belgium, Norway do no such things. US, China, Russia and others on the other hand do. So don't feed me this 3000 years crap. US is not trying to do otherwise, Rice wasn't trying to do otherwise. Dropbox board, Dropbox top management lost all my trust as soon as they agreed to work with the person responsible for lots of human suffering. It's simple really, its about the character of people running dropbox.
    - bsaul 13y ago

itstriz 13y ago

Since when is running a boycott campaign a "quest for ideological purity" or enforcing "thoughtcrime"? This doesn't seem like it's about ideology or what sort of things Rice thinks. It's about people being tortured and killed and her part in that. It's about actual crime not thought crime. She should be held accountable for her actions and making her a pariah in various communities is one small way of doing that.

saturdaysaint 13y ago

I mean, "actioncrime" is closer to what's being alleged here. So, "crime".