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There are millions of web bunglers in the indernet. Do you really want him to compete with them at entry job level? You told he "has a technical master degree"

by kephra 13y ago

There are millions of web bunglers in the indernet. Do you really want him to compete with them at entry job level? You told he "has a technical master degree". and I would advise to focus coding goals towards solving problems within his domain. He might be a bad coder, but he can certainly compete to an average coder, who has no domain knowledge.

busterarm 13y ago
I'm in a similar boat as the OP's friend without the degree. I've been working in IT for 15 years but want to change careers to software development. Web development just doesn't excite me that much but that's where most of the jobs I could get are. I've learned what I need to already, I'd just need to hammer out a couple more projects and put 'em on Github. I really need to know if I just need to suck it up and do that for a few years and then try to change it up or keep learning and try to follow my passions now. I think the worst part for me is that I know how much I don't know, so I have no confidence in my ability. That said, I've always received compliments from other people about my code. It's a big barrier to overcome.
incision 13y ago
>"...advise to focus coding goals towards solving problems within his domain." Exactly. Every field is bound to have some common problem which is dying for an app to mobilize it, a site to collect and correlate it, some code to automate it or a framework to organize it. Identify a problem in the native domain then figure out to leverage code to solve it. This is exactly the sort of transition I'm eyeing, but I'm looking at it from the perspective of systems/operational tech rather than something entirely outside.
- tbassetto 13y ago
  > Every field is bound to have some common problem which is dying for an app to mobilize it, a site to collect and correlate it, some code to automate it or a framework to organize it. At first sight, we can not see one but he will keep trying to find one because it is definitely helping to work on a project that could help you in your current job. That said, I tend to agree with gofer's comment about how it could not evolve into a position of developer in his current field. There are definitely "IT people (developers included)" and "domain experts". Maybe mentalities could be changes…
samelawrence 13y ago
As a self-taught developer trying to break into the industry, I would happily compete with them for an entry level job (I'm 25). Goddamn lack of a college degree holds me back over and over.

by kephra 13y ago

busterarm 13y ago

I'm in a similar boat as the OP's friend without the degree. I've been working in IT for 15 years but want to change careers to software development. Web development just doesn't excite me that much but that's where most of the jobs I could get are. I've learned what I need to already, I'd just need to hammer out a couple more projects and put 'em on Github. I really need to know if I just need to suck it up and do that for a few years and then try to change it up or keep learning and try to follow my passions now. I think the worst part for me is that I know how much I don't know, so I have no confidence in my ability. That said, I've always received compliments from other people about my code. It's a big barrier to overcome.

incision 13y ago

>"...advise to focus coding goals towards solving problems within his domain." Exactly. Every field is bound to have some common problem which is dying for an app to mobilize it, a site to collect and correlate it, some code to automate it or a framework to organize it. Identify a problem in the native domain then figure out to leverage code to solve it. This is exactly the sort of transition I'm eyeing, but I'm looking at it from the perspective of systems/operational tech rather than something entirely outside.

tbassetto 13y ago
> Every field is bound to have some common problem which is dying for an app to mobilize it, a site to collect and correlate it, some code to automate it or a framework to organize it. At first sight, we can not see one but he will keep trying to find one because it is definitely helping to work on a project that could help you in your current job. That said, I tend to agree with gofer's comment about how it could not evolve into a position of developer in his current field. There are definitely "IT people (developers included)" and "domain experts". Maybe mentalities could be changes…

samelawrence 13y ago

As a self-taught developer trying to break into the industry, I would happily compete with them for an entry level job (I'm 25). Goddamn lack of a college degree holds me back over and over.