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And yet, President Obama selected Joe Biden as his vice president, who also voted for the same war. Hillary Clinton did too, and she's the leading Democratic co

And yet, President Obama selected Joe Biden as his vice president, who also voted for the same war. Hillary Clinton did too, and she's the leading Democratic contender for 2016. Why no outrage? Because they have a D next to their names?

nikcub 13y ago
This really shouldn't need to be pointed out: but the difference is that none of these people have been appointed to the board of any tech company. In 10 years time if Facebook put James Clapper or Eric Holder on their board it'd likely be more controversial.
- hg54yghf 13y ago
  Are you serious? Al Gore is on various boards, including Apple. He also supported the war. Will you stop using Apple products now? You're not a hypocrite, are you?
  - nikcub 13y ago
    Al Gore was appointed to the board of Apple prior to the Iraq war. Here is the Slashdot thread from when he joined, there wasn't much controversial about him at the time other than 'huh, he invented the internet': http://apple-beta.slashdot.org/story/03/03/19/2246212/al-gore-joins-apples-board-of-directors http://apple-beta.slashdot.org/story/03/03/19/2246212/al-gor... He wasn't in congress during the Iraq war vote. There is a very wide bridge between having a personal opinion as a private citizen in agreeing with the war (as Gore did) and being part of a group of people who planned, orchestrated, operated & implemented two unjust and likely illegal wars. fwiw, I don't like many of them and don't understand the whole red/blue R/D thing you guys have going on - they all seem very similar from where i'm sitting.
    - gfsdg4g54 13y ago
      This matters why? Al Gore was on the board after the war started. He made his support for the war clear after his appointment and after the war had started. He wasn't in Congress, but Condeleeza wasn't in Congress too. She had as many votes as Al Gore did for the Iraq war. Why is Al Gore excused but Condeleeza not?
      - dllthomas 13y ago
        National Security Advisor presumably (hopefully!) has better access to information and internal assessments of the quality of various intelligence sources than does "random ex- politician".
  - d23 13y ago
    Completely ignoring the point that Al Gore wasn't a public official at the time, let's not forget that congress was lied to just as much as the rest of the public.
    - gfsdg4g54 13y ago
      The Factcheck link http://archive.is/vAWQa http://archive.is/vAWQa completely disproves your claim. Are they lying too?
      - conception 13y ago
        That fact check shows that he didn't lie during the State of the Union address, not that the pretense for the war wasn't a lie. Certainly, it says nothing about the fact we went to war with Iraq for an attack they had nothing to do with.
    - warrenm 13y ago
      And Condoleeze Rice is not a "public official" now, either
canvia 13y ago
Hilary Clinton is as establishment as it gets. She isn't a valid option and it would be an outrage if she were shoved down the publics throat. Elizabeth Warren is far more likely to succeed.
antocv 13y ago
Well, I for one, am outraged. No sarcasm, seriously, I think both Biden and Clinton should resign from any positions they are holding. If they dont want to, we must make fire them. But whatever, just like bankers, those who are on top obviously can not make any mistake, no matter how big or what kind of mistake, to jeopardize their income or influence in society. But those poor people, you slip on one payment, or get caught with one joint, oh fuck god have mercy, you poor bastard. Also "whats this, B-? nah sorry brah you arent eligible for this position."
gress 13y ago
It's not a question of 'no outrage', it's a question of no power. In the case of Dropbox, we can actually do something they care about: stop using their service.

nikcub 13y ago

This really shouldn't need to be pointed out: but the difference is that none of these people have been appointed to the board of any tech company. In 10 years time if Facebook put James Clapper or Eric Holder on their board it'd likely be more controversial.

hg54yghf 13y ago
Are you serious? Al Gore is on various boards, including Apple. He also supported the war. Will you stop using Apple products now? You're not a hypocrite, are you?
- nikcub 13y ago
  Al Gore was appointed to the board of Apple prior to the Iraq war. Here is the Slashdot thread from when he joined, there wasn't much controversial about him at the time other than 'huh, he invented the internet': http://apple-beta.slashdot.org/story/03/03/19/2246212/al-gore-joins-apples-board-of-directors http://apple-beta.slashdot.org/story/03/03/19/2246212/al-gor... He wasn't in congress during the Iraq war vote. There is a very wide bridge between having a personal opinion as a private citizen in agreeing with the war (as Gore did) and being part of a group of people who planned, orchestrated, operated & implemented two unjust and likely illegal wars. fwiw, I don't like many of them and don't understand the whole red/blue R/D thing you guys have going on - they all seem very similar from where i'm sitting.
  - gfsdg4g54 13y ago
    This matters why? Al Gore was on the board after the war started. He made his support for the war clear after his appointment and after the war had started. He wasn't in Congress, but Condeleeza wasn't in Congress too. She had as many votes as Al Gore did for the Iraq war. Why is Al Gore excused but Condeleeza not?
    - dllthomas 13y ago
      National Security Advisor presumably (hopefully!) has better access to information and internal assessments of the quality of various intelligence sources than does "random ex- politician".
- d23 13y ago
  Completely ignoring the point that Al Gore wasn't a public official at the time, let's not forget that congress was lied to just as much as the rest of the public.
  - gfsdg4g54 13y ago
    The Factcheck link http://archive.is/vAWQa http://archive.is/vAWQa completely disproves your claim. Are they lying too?
    - conception 13y ago
      That fact check shows that he didn't lie during the State of the Union address, not that the pretense for the war wasn't a lie. Certainly, it says nothing about the fact we went to war with Iraq for an attack they had nothing to do with.
  - warrenm 13y ago
    And Condoleeze Rice is not a "public official" now, either

canvia 13y ago

Hilary Clinton is as establishment as it gets. She isn't a valid option and it would be an outrage if she were shoved down the publics throat. Elizabeth Warren is far more likely to succeed.

antocv 13y ago

Well, I for one, am outraged. No sarcasm, seriously, I think both Biden and Clinton should resign from any positions they are holding. If they dont want to, we must make fire them. But whatever, just like bankers, those who are on top obviously can not make any mistake, no matter how big or what kind of mistake, to jeopardize their income or influence in society. But those poor people, you slip on one payment, or get caught with one joint, oh fuck god have mercy, you poor bastard. Also "whats this, B-? nah sorry brah you arent eligible for this position."

gress 13y ago

It's not a question of 'no outrage', it's a question of no power. In the case of Dropbox, we can actually do something they care about: stop using their service.