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and Al Gore is on the board of many businesses... what's the big deal with it? because she's republican? EDIT: why am i downvoted? because i'm pointing out ex

by camus2 13y ago

and Al Gore is on the board of many businesses... what's the big deal with it? because she's republican? EDIT: why am i downvoted? because i'm pointing out ex politics on both sides seat on boards or because i talked about being republican,which is not popular here?

geekam 13y ago
Isn't this a kind of conflict of interest? (not a snark but a real question).
- bmelton 13y ago
  No. She currently works at Stanford. She's not presiding over any legislation or anything, nor does she hold any office I'm aware of.
protomyth 13y ago
Probably. Condoleezza Rice has ties to Stanford and is a good pickup for overseas advice.
- rainmaking 13y ago
  She sure does understand how to kill foreigners, but I'm not so sure about marketing to them.
  - protomyth 13y ago
    I see we've attracted the trolls from Fark's political tab. sigh :) Care to back up your statement with some facts with sources?
bmelton 13y ago
I think the implication is because she's an advisor to the NSA, it does not necessarily make her the best custodian of our data. That said, the idea that she would ever be in a position to touch any user's data from the board is absurd -- however, with appropriate amounts of tin foil, if you were looking for a way in to a big-money data-sale to the NSA, you could do worse than Condy for your board.
tomp 13y ago
For me, the problem is her involvement with the Bush Iraq fiasco. Lying about weapons of mass destruction.
- sigzero 13y ago
  Then you must hate everyone. Everyone in Congress believed it. Multiple countries around the world believed it too. Good luck with that attitude.
  - Karunamon 13y ago
    Believing it != directly lying about it. You can't rightly hold it against someone that they were misled.
  - tomp 13y ago
    They believe it because Bush and Rice said so. They, on the other hand, had all of the US intelligence services to provide them with data.
  - venomsnake 13y ago
    Europe didn't buy the lies. There were a lot of rallies against the war. And UK is not political part of Europe. It is more like 52'nd US state. Russia and China were meh.
  - subsection1h 13y ago
    > Everyone in Congress believed it. Wrong. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml
- efa 13y ago
  Yeah, like those liars the Russians, the Chinese, the British, the French, ... Damn how was Bush able to brainwash the whole UN!
  - mercurial 13y ago
    The Russians, the Chinese and the French, really?
uptown 13y ago
Presumably, one reason a company appoints people to their board is for their judgement. Many believe Rice demonstrated exceptionally-poor judgement during her public office. Example: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/01/news/la-pn-rice-katrina-20111101 http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/01/news/la-pn-rice-katr...
valarauca1 13y ago
Supporters of warrentless wire tapping, and bulk anonymous data collection are in-charge of a company that wants me to trust them with my data. That destroys a lot of trust.
- SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
  > Supporters of warrentless wire tapping, and bulk anonymous data collection are in-charge of a company that wants me to trust them with my data This is IMHO the big, relevant one. Her role in the Iraq war may be vile ( to most of us), but this is directly in conflict with the expectations of Dropbox users. What were the Dropbox decision-makers thinking?
Pxtl 13y ago
No, because she was a republican who was a key player in one of the worst administrations in the recent history of the US government. I don't have any problem with people who believe in small government, defense, the rule of law, and sound fiscal policy. Lying to the American public to justify a boondoggle of a war in Iraq is different. Al Gore, whatever his failings, doesn't have that kind of massive black mark on his resume.
- cookiecaper 13y ago
  You don't want to go through all the things the Clinton administration did? People can trump up just as many silly charges against him (yes, including the deaths of "hundreds of thousands"). Hackers need to mature into the real world if they want to run grown-up companies.
  - Pxtl 13y ago
    > Hackers need to mature into the real world if they want to run grown-up companies. A talk-radio slogan when Bush was elected was that "the adults are in charge". How'd that work out for you? Really, you can't talk about being "grown-up" out of one side of your mouth while basely insulting your opponents' "maturity" out of the other side just because we disagree politically.
    - cookiecaper 13y ago
      It's not because we simply disagree politically, that's obviously fine with me, but not with anyone else in the tech community apparently. This is now the second instance in as many weeks where the tech mob is actively running out anyone who disagrees with their political views and boycotting entire companies for having the gall to hire useful people who happen to be conservative.
      - SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
        > having the gall to hire useful people who happen to be conservative BS. To me it's really simple, and not about party affiliation: A strong supporter of warrantless wire tapping and bulk anonymous data collection is a terrible choice for the board of a consumer file-storage service.

by camus2 13y ago

geekam 13y ago

Isn't this a kind of conflict of interest? (not a snark but a real question).

bmelton 13y ago
No. She currently works at Stanford. She's not presiding over any legislation or anything, nor does she hold any office I'm aware of.

protomyth 13y ago

Probably. Condoleezza Rice has ties to Stanford and is a good pickup for overseas advice.

rainmaking 13y ago
She sure does understand how to kill foreigners, but I'm not so sure about marketing to them.
- protomyth 13y ago
  I see we've attracted the trolls from Fark's political tab. sigh :) Care to back up your statement with some facts with sources?

bmelton 13y ago

I think the implication is because she's an advisor to the NSA, it does not necessarily make her the best custodian of our data. That said, the idea that she would ever be in a position to touch any user's data from the board is absurd -- however, with appropriate amounts of tin foil, if you were looking for a way in to a big-money data-sale to the NSA, you could do worse than Condy for your board.

tomp 13y ago

For me, the problem is her involvement with the Bush Iraq fiasco. Lying about weapons of mass destruction.

sigzero 13y ago
Then you must hate everyone. Everyone in Congress believed it. Multiple countries around the world believed it too. Good luck with that attitude.
- Karunamon 13y ago
  Believing it != directly lying about it. You can't rightly hold it against someone that they were misled.
- tomp 13y ago
  They believe it because Bush and Rice said so. They, on the other hand, had all of the US intelligence services to provide them with data.
- venomsnake 13y ago
  Europe didn't buy the lies. There were a lot of rallies against the war. And UK is not political part of Europe. It is more like 52'nd US state. Russia and China were meh.
- subsection1h 13y ago
  > Everyone in Congress believed it. Wrong. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml
efa 13y ago
Yeah, like those liars the Russians, the Chinese, the British, the French, ... Damn how was Bush able to brainwash the whole UN!
- mercurial 13y ago
  The Russians, the Chinese and the French, really?

uptown 13y ago

Presumably, one reason a company appoints people to their board is for their judgement. Many believe Rice demonstrated exceptionally-poor judgement during her public office. Example: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/01/news/la-pn-rice-katrina-20111101 http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/01/news/la-pn-rice-katr...

valarauca1 13y ago

Supporters of warrentless wire tapping, and bulk anonymous data collection are in-charge of a company that wants me to trust them with my data. That destroys a lot of trust.

SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
> Supporters of warrentless wire tapping, and bulk anonymous data collection are in-charge of a company that wants me to trust them with my data This is IMHO the big, relevant one. Her role in the Iraq war may be vile ( to most of us), but this is directly in conflict with the expectations of Dropbox users. What were the Dropbox decision-makers thinking?

Pxtl 13y ago

No, because she was a republican who was a key player in one of the worst administrations in the recent history of the US government. I don't have any problem with people who believe in small government, defense, the rule of law, and sound fiscal policy. Lying to the American public to justify a boondoggle of a war in Iraq is different. Al Gore, whatever his failings, doesn't have that kind of massive black mark on his resume.

cookiecaper 13y ago
You don't want to go through all the things the Clinton administration did? People can trump up just as many silly charges against him (yes, including the deaths of "hundreds of thousands"). Hackers need to mature into the real world if they want to run grown-up companies.
- Pxtl 13y ago
  > Hackers need to mature into the real world if they want to run grown-up companies. A talk-radio slogan when Bush was elected was that "the adults are in charge". How'd that work out for you? Really, you can't talk about being "grown-up" out of one side of your mouth while basely insulting your opponents' "maturity" out of the other side just because we disagree politically.
  - cookiecaper 13y ago
    It's not because we simply disagree politically, that's obviously fine with me, but not with anyone else in the tech community apparently. This is now the second instance in as many weeks where the tech mob is actively running out anyone who disagrees with their political views and boycotting entire companies for having the gall to hire useful people who happen to be conservative.
    - SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
      > having the gall to hire useful people who happen to be conservative BS. To me it's really simple, and not about party affiliation: A strong supporter of warrantless wire tapping and bulk anonymous data collection is a terrible choice for the board of a consumer file-storage service.